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From: Evan Dallas <Evan_Dallas_at_notes.ntrs.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] PaddleWise -- Call of Nature (not for the squeemish)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:55:29 -0700
I just can't resist adding one more option for the
not-too-easily-grossed-out-by-a-little-pee crowd.  Before I mention this,
remember that that yellow liquid, despite it's reputation, is actually
fairly sterile stuff.

OK, here's my true confession:  when I just gotta go, and haven't a pee
bottle handy, and am in a place I can't land, I've used my, uh, sponge.
Actually works pretty well, as long as you only do a little at a time [like
go for 3-5 seconds (depending on "flow rate" -- hmmm, almost sounds like
one of those boat-hydraulics threads)], then rinse out and repeat.
Afterwards you just dip it in the water and wring it out anywhere from 5 to
maybe 200 times (depending on one's urine-avoidance rating).  Even though
I'm not female, I would guess this *could* work for same, since it covers a
pretty wide area and the shape is very moldable.

Evan



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From: Jackie Fenton <jackie_at_intelenet.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] PaddleWise -- Call of Nature (not for the squeemish)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:14:57 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Evan Dallas" <Evan_Dallas_at_notes.ntrs.com>

<snip>
> OK, here's my true confession:

<snip message about using a sponge for the call of nature...>

oops... sorry about that.  Evan's message was sent twice due to my
error.  But it is so simple and makes so much sense that maybe being
sent twice wasn't a bad thing :-)  Though I've never had to use it
for the purpose described, my bailing sponge always stays tied to my
boat seat so it is handy.  It is also very large and holds a *lot* of 
water.  

Thanks for the obvious and simple tip, Evan.

Cheers,

Jackie


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From: Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] PaddleWise -- Call of Nature (not for the squeemish)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:20:37 -0700
I believe that John and Bea Dowd used this sponge method even for not so
sterile #2 on some of their long crossings from South America to Florida in
a Klepper Aerius II. Lets ask Ed Gillette, 63 days to Hawaii?
Matt Broze
http://www.marinerkayaks.com
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From: Evan Dallas <Evan_Dallas_at_notes.ntrs.com>
To: PaddleWise <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
Date: Thursday, July 29, 1999 6:31 PM
Subject: [Paddlewise] PaddleWise -- Call of Nature (not for the squeemish)


>I just can't resist adding one more option for the
>not-too-easily-grossed-out-by-a-little-pee crowd.  Before I mention this,
>remember that that yellow liquid, despite it's reputation, is actually
>fairly sterile stuff.
>
>OK, here's my true confession:  when I just gotta go, and haven't a pee
>bottle handy, and am in a place I can't land, I've used my, uh, sponge.
>Actually works pretty well, as long as you only do a little at a time [like
>go for 3-5 seconds (depending on "flow rate" -- hmmm, almost sounds like
>one of those boat-hydraulics threads)], then rinse out and repeat.
>Afterwards you just dip it in the water and wring it out anywhere from 5 to
>maybe 200 times (depending on one's urine-avoidance rating).  Even though
>I'm not female, I would guess this *could* work for same, since it covers a
>pretty wide area and the shape is very moldable.
>
>Evan
>


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From: Mark Zen <canoeist_at_netbox.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] PaddleWise -- Call of Nature (not for the squeemish)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 05:58:09 -0600 (MDT)
On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Evan Dallas wrote:

> I just can't resist adding one more option for the
> not-too-easily-grossed-out-by-a-little-pee crowd.  Before I mention this,
> remember that that yellow liquid, despite it's reputation, is actually
> fairly sterile stuff.
> 
> OK, here's my true confession:  when I just gotta go, and haven't a pee
> bottle handy, and am in a place I can't land, I've used my, uh, sponge.
> Actually works pretty well, as long as you only do a little at a time [like
> go for 3-5 seconds (depending on "flow rate" -- hmmm, almost sounds like
> one of those boat-hydraulics threads)], then rinse out and repeat.
> Afterwards you just dip it in the water and wring it out anywhere from 5 to
> maybe 200 times (depending on one's urine-avoidance rating).  Even though
> I'm not female, I would guess this *could* work for same, since it covers a
> pretty wide area and the shape is very moldable.
> 
> Evan

in the navy, many pilots take a zip lock baggie, with a sponge in it...
quite popular "option"

mark

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From: Dickson, Dana A. <dana.dickson_at_unisys.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] PaddleWise -- Call of Nature (not for the squeemish)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:45:03 -0500
The instructor at the kayaking class I took several years ago, told us to
pee in our wetsuits.  His theory was that urine is sterile, and mostly warm
water with little environmental effects.  While there are exeptions to all
of his premises, I think he was mostly right.  I have exited by boat to pee
in the water and actually prefer that approach to trying to pee standing up
in a kayak.  The later can be done at least in theory if you have great
balance or good friends stabilizing your boat for you.

Dana Dickson   

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