G'Day, I was curious what people took to sea in their first aid kits, whether there were any items or techniques specifically useful to kayakers and what people had found useful in practice? Also I'ld value a description if anyone has had to give expired air resuscitation while afloat? Has this area been discussed before - I'ld be grateful for references. All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 8/22/99 3:31:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, PeterO_at_ambri.com.au writes: << any items or techniques specifically useful to kayakers and what people had found useful in practice? >> Your hands take a beating setting up camp, repacking dry bags and storing gear in the kayak. Cuts never heal and bandages come off paddling. Gloves help, a pair for paddling and a light weight pair for stuffing gear into dry bags et. Pack extra finger bandages and tape. This may seem minor but can be painful on an extended trip. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> From: Peter Osman[SMTP:PeterO_at_ambri.com.au] > > I was curious what people took to sea in their first aid kits, whether > there > were any items or techniques specifically useful to kayakers and what > people > had found useful in practice? > Having just returned from a 10 day trip down the Saguenay Fjord (Quebec), we had lots of blisters, little cuts and put the 1st aid bandage to use with a strained wrist. As a group, we took a lot of Aleve for strained shoulder and back muscles from lugging the loaded boats and gear. Debbie Reeves Sandy Hook, NJ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> From: Peter Osman[SMTP:PeterO_at_ambri.com.au] >I was curious what people took to sea in their first aid kits, whether > >there were any items or techniques specifically useful to kayakers and > >what people had found useful in practice? There is a product I include in my first aid that I've found useful for cycling (road rash) but may also be useful in kayaking (scrapes and abrasions from mishaps during landings or when falling on rocks). It's a 3M product called "Tegaderm" and is a sterile film like thick Saran wrap and it comes in a flat square you can cut to fit. It clings to oozing wounds and keeps them moist. Another mfr. makes a similar product but I don't remember the name. Other than the standard items I also like to carry aloe vera gel for those days that I miss a corner of skin with sunscreen. Brad Seattle, WA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> >I was curious what people took to sea in their first aid kits, whether > > >there were any items or techniques specifically useful to kayakers and > > >what people had found useful in practice? > > <<There is a product I include in my first aid that I've found useful for > cycling (road rash) but may also be useful in kayaking (scrapes and > abrasions from mishaps during landings or when falling on rocks). > > > Other than the standard items I also like to carry aloe vera gel for those > days that I miss a corner of skin with sunscreen.>> > I've found that some CVS Vitamin E cream for too much sun, blisters that are starting and something to put on salt dried skin at the end of a paddle. Of course there are the Band-Aids and aspirin but I carry extra glasses for finding those pesky splinters. For cold water I carry the chemical hand warmers that are rechargeable with a shake and petroleum jelly to help with a mild rub of the hands when they are chilled at breaks. Keeps the skin from drying out too much with all the wet in the cold. Joan Spinner *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Cuts, scrapes, abrasions, strains, sprains, dislocations, fever, cramps, diarrhea, constipation, toothache, earache, hypothermia, hyperthermia, sunburn, allergies, fitness level and medical needs of participants, just some of the considerations. Don't bring anything that you are not trained with or prepared to use. On the rescue breathing question I say try the Hiemlich Maneuver immediately. CLEAR THE AIRWAY *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Medicinal brandy. It serves multipurposes as a topical disinfectant on wounds and a painkiller when applied internally. Medicinal brandy helps in warming up a chilled person (You don't really believe that nonsense about alcohol not being good for helping a cold person feel warmer. Afterall, who is more trustworthy: a doctor or a St. Bernard? :-)). Also it has been proven over the centuries as an excellent remedy during later stages of recuperation from injury or illness. Medicinal brandy and other such distillants have only one limitation for a common boating calamity: it doesn't work for severe sunburns. Well, not directly, about 35 years ago, my wife and I were in Acapulco when she contacted the worse sunburn I ever saw. I tried putting butter on her but it curdled!!! She was miserable and could not lie down to sleep. Finally I got some Mexican wine (in those days Mexican wine was absolutely horrible; it has improved somewhat since then) and had her drink away. She slept like a baby. ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Brad said "It's a 3M product called "Tegaderm" and is a sterile film like thick Saran wrap and it comes in a flat square you can cut to fit. It clings to oozing wounds and keeps them moist." Is this something which is also easy to get OFF the wound at the end of the day? Where would I find it- in general first aid sections of stores, or is it something you have to special order? I'm somewhat famous for falling off rocks, bikes, piers, whatever, and would love to be able to glue myself back together more easily... -Allison *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Allison Corning wrote: > Brad said > > "It's a 3M product called "Tegaderm" and is a sterile film like thick Saran > wrap and it comes in a flat square you can cut to fit. It clings to oozing > wounds and keeps them moist." > > Is this something which is also easy to get OFF the wound at the end of the > day? Where would I find it- in general first aid sections of stores, or is > it something you have to special order? I'm somewhat famous for falling off > rocks, bikes, piers, whatever, and would love to be able to glue myself back > together more easily... I've used Tegaderm since I've first been able to get my hands on it. It has been described as the "Gore-Tex of bandages". It's waterproof and breathable. The good thing about it for paddlers is its ability to stay on. You don't want or need to take it off at the end of the day. It stays on and protects the wound while letting it breath and heal. I had to use some a couple of years ago while paddling the Nahanni river and it stayed put for about five days under a farmer john (including a deliberate swim at the end of a long hot day). Its ability to keep out dirty or salty water should be appreciated by kayakers on extended trips. It's too expensive to consider as a substitute for bandaids in the city. It is also kinda large and due to the way only the edge has adhesive, it can't be cut to fit. You should be able to get it in most good pharmacies. Brad's comment about oozing wounds may be misleading. Tegaderm is not intended for "seeping wounds" (3M'S term) but rather for dry-ish wounds. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Allison wrote: > >Is this something which is also easy to get OFF the wound at the end of the >day? Where would I find it- in general first aid sections of stores, or is >it something you have to special order? I'm somewhat famous for falling off >rocks, bikes, piers, whatever, and would love to be able to glue myself >back together more easily... > >-Allison Tegaderm is really easy to get off. It's been a while since I've used it but it just seems to "cling" to the skin. It peels right off but stays on in the shower, under clothing, etc. You can get it a drugstores or online (drugstore.com, et al) THEIR blurb-- Great for Treating Minor Wounds, Cuts, Scrapes and Burns. Reddened, Fragile Skin. Post-Surgical Incisions. Minor Skin Tears and Blisters, I.V. Catheter Sites. Provides Excellent Wound Healing Environment Keeps Out Water, Dirt & Germs Sterile Lets Skin Breathe Hypoallergenic Can Be Worn in Shower or Bath Brad > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In addition to all the "norms" I carry Calendula Gel which is good for burns, sunburn,and minor bites. Arnica pills as well as gel which helps bumps and discourages bruises. These are Homeopathics which are found in Health Food Stores Pat --- Joan Spinner <JSpinner_at_agu.org> wrote: > > >I was curious what people took to sea in their > first aid kits, whether > > > >there were any items or techniques specifically > useful to kayakers and > > > >what people had found useful in practice? > > > > <<There is a product I include in my first aid > that I've found useful for > > cycling (road rash) but may also be useful in > kayaking (scrapes and > > abrasions from mishaps during landings or when > falling on rocks). > > > > > > Other than the standard items I also like to carry > aloe vera gel for those > > days that I miss a corner of skin with > sunscreen.>> > > > > I've found that some CVS Vitamin E cream for too > much sun, blisters that are > starting and something to put on salt dried skin at > the end of a paddle. Of > course there are the Band-Aids and aspirin but I > carry extra glasses for > finding those pesky splinters. For cold water I > carry the chemical hand warmers > that are rechargeable with a shake and petroleum > jelly to help with a mild rub > of the hands when they are chilled at breaks. Keeps > the skin from drying out > too much with all the wet in the cold. > > Joan Spinner > > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: > paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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