G'Day, Thanks for all the suggestions on items for a first aid kit - I've got my St Johns Ambulance exam on Monday and rough water self rescue practice on Saturday so first aid is one of the things on my mind. The tegaderm sounds like a nice product I'll look out for it. Does anyone have ideas on really effective hot packs for fish stings and cold packs for jelly fish? Medicinal alcohol for warmth? On the one hand it expands blood capillaries. On the other hand it has calories and surely the Scots (and St Bernard dogs) knew what they were doing when they supplied it on cold winters days. Antiseptic - well its standard lab practice to use 70% alcohol in water as a cleaning agent, but what a waste of brandy! The references to the 'non stick' tegaderm and brandy suddenly made me realise the point of the oil and wine poured into wounds in the good samaritan story. But it might be better to save the brandy for the end of the trip and the oil for salad dressing. Regarding the Heimlich maneuver - I'll give that one a miss for the moment as it wasn't on the repertoire of techniques I've learn't - but I'm still interested in methods/experiences for exhaled air resuscitation in a deep water kayaking environment. All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 8/26/99 10:13:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, PeterO_at_ambri.com.au writes: << Does anyone have ideas on really effective hot packs for fish stings and cold packs for jelly fish? >> I've always heard that taking along meat tenderizer (papaya enzyme) is good for jelly fish stings. You can find it in the spices section of the grocery store. Sandy Kramer *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I paddle and fish in southwest florida and have had unfortunate instances when I have been barbed by our local saltwater catfish. The pain is such that it becomes really difficult to paddle for at least 30 minutes or more depending on where you have been injured on hand or arm. I had read that applying hot compresses to the wound area would help neutralize the poison but the thought of heading to shore and boiling water in mosquito infested mangrove islands did not seem like a good solution. At a local sports store I found instant hand warmers for people playing in colder climes than FL but it promised to heat up quite a bit so I bought a 3 pak. Used it not too long ago as one of my paddling friends not used to fishing in our waters got barbed. I gave her the hand warmer and she activated it by squeezing the plastic much like the instant cold compresses (I also keep in first aid kit) and applied to wound. She felt relief soon after it got really hot and was able to resume paddling and fishing within 15 minutes without the painful stabbing pain. <*)))< *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
><< Does anyone have ideas on really effective hot packs for fish stings and > cold packs for jelly fish? >> Here in the States I carry a 3M Cold Comfort pack which you squeeze & mix two components to make a cold gel. Costs about $7. For a hot pack I have these "Heat Solution" plastic bags. It's supersaturated Sodium Acetate with a little nickel disk that you bend. That tosses some nuclei into the stuff for the acetate to crystallize, releasing quite a bit of heat. You can regenerate this one by boiling it in water until all liquid again. I do have to carry this in a stiff box; on a couple of occasions something squeezed it enough to start the process... Joe P. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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