I was reviewing quickly some of the material in the "Skin boats of Greenland " on this subject. It seems the beads where used tighten loose deck line or allow an atlatl or other piece of equipment to easily slip underneath the deck lines. I also suspect that the bead prevented the paddler from accidentally "digging" into the skin of the boat and tearing the skin when he needed to secure his equipment . Since modern day Kayakers tend to emulate their ancient counterparts sometimes the bead is unnecessary. On modern day kayaks I find beads are needed if the bungie cord is thin and string like. Some kayaks like P&H and CD need a few beads to allow a paddler to secure their paddle underneath. Other manufacturers like Necky and Seaward use a thicker bungie cord on their kayak decks. I have never had a problem slipping a paddle blade underneath thicker bungie cord in rough waters with one hand. Mind you adding a few coloured beads to ones boat does make it look attractive and it doesn't hurt. Has anyone found that putting beads on their bungie cordst wears down the gelco on their kayaks ? If so are they wooden or plastic beads? Dave *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Yes John, That is the function. It is also very difficult to pry your blade under the bungy so far forward without the assistence of the beads. BC'in Ya Doug Lloyd At 07:36 AM 9/15/99 -0400, you wrote: >Doug Lloyd wrote: >If you run that short >> piece of bungy line (front deck near hatch must be about 8 inches?) through >> a couple of beads, it is very easy to reach forward and slip the distal end >> of your "stick" under the bungy for a park. > >Doug, are the beads there to act as rollers for the paddle to roll >through under the bungie (instead of scraping the deck), or is there >another function. > >John >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ >*************************************************************************** > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 9/15/99 4:49:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, toki_at_islandnet.com writes: << I was reviewing quickly some of the material in the "Skin boats of Greenland " on this subject. It seems the beads where used tighten loose deck line or allow an atlatl or other piece of equipment to easily slip underneath the deck lines. >> For the *cooold* weather paddlers out there, the beads may also help keep lines of all types from freezing to the deck. Harold *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Another reason for the beads on deck lines of Greenland kayaks was to keep them from freezing to the deck skin, rendering them useless. Debbie Reeves Sandy Hook, NJ > ---------- > From: toki[SMTP:toki_at_islandnet.com] > Reply To: toki > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 10:01 AM > To: Paddlewise > Subject: [Paddlewise] beads on bungie > > I was reviewing quickly some of the material in the "Skin boats of > Greenland " on this subject. > It seems the beads where used tighten loose deck line or allow an atlatl > or > other piece of equipment to easily slip underneath the deck lines. I also > suspect that the bead prevented the paddler from accidentally "digging" > into > the skin of the boat and tearing the skin when he needed to secure his > equipment . > > Since modern day Kayakers tend to emulate their ancient counterparts > sometimes the bead is unnecessary. On modern day kayaks I find beads are > needed if the bungie cord is thin and string like. Some kayaks like P&H > and CD need a few beads to allow a paddler to secure their paddle > underneath. Other manufacturers like Necky and Seaward use a thicker > bungie > cord on their kayak decks. I have never had a problem slipping a paddle > blade underneath thicker bungie cord in rough waters with one hand. > > Mind you adding a few coloured beads to ones boat does make it look > attractive and it doesn't hurt. > > Has anyone found that putting beads on their bungie cordst wears down the > gelco on their kayaks ? If so are they wooden or plastic beads? > > Dave > > ************************************************************************** > * > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > ************************************************************************** > * > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Reeves, Debbie (Debbie) wrote: > > Another reason for the beads on deck lines of Greenland kayaks was to keep > them from freezing to the deck skin, rendering them useless. Gee, I had made the assumption all along that the beads were solid evidence that St. Brendan had indeed not only sailed to the New World a millenium ago but also brought the Faith to the people of Greenland. Anyone can see that the beads are obviously descendent from rosary beads. ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Steve wrote " For the third, you'll need to go to your nearest paleolithic sports store." I have fashioned your basic atlatl using only a stick and a swiss army knife. Highly efective for that late night spear throwing practice and Much less expensive than all those paleolithic mail order outifts...:) -A *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Allison Corning wrote: > > " For the third, you'll > need to go to your nearest paleolithic sports store." > > I have fashioned your basic atlatl using only a stick and a swiss army > knife. Highly efective for that late night spear throwing practice and Much > less expensive than all those paleolithic mail order outifts...:) > And of course they never have 800 numbers... Steve *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Allison Corning wrote: > I have fashioned your basic atlatl using only a stick and a swiss army > knife. I can't resist - it's the only Swiss Army knife joke I know. The first annual Swiss Army Knife Affectionados Conventions takes place. Every serious SAK enthusiast in the world attends. At the opening session, the chairman introduces the first speaker: "Sergeant Wildebeens will demonstrate the construction of an Arctic survival shelter using nothing but a Swiss Army Knife and a stick" A voice from the back of the hall bellows: "Wot's he need the stick for???" Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>You can get the first two at any marine outfitter. For the third, you'll >need to go to your nearest paleolithic sports store. I get at least one Outdoor Sporting Goods catalog that has Flint Knives and axes for sale...... *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Good point Deb. I just had another thought too: if the ice did cake onto the deck lines , making them much stiffer, a paddler could easily shave off the ice by sliding the beads from side to side. -----Original Message----- From: Reeves, Debbie (Debbie) <dreeves_at_lucent.com> To: Paddlewise <PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net> Date: Thursday, September 16, 1999 7:03 AM Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] beads on bungie >Another reason for the beads on deck lines of Greenland kayaks was to keep >them from freezing to the deck skin, rendering them useless. > >Debbie Reeves >Sandy Hook, NJ >> ---------- >> From: toki[SMTP:toki_at_islandnet.com] >> Reply To: toki >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 10:01 AM >> To: Paddlewise >> Subject: [Paddlewise] beads on bungie >> >> I was reviewing quickly some of the material in the "Skin boats of >> Greenland " on this subject. >> It seems the beads where used tighten loose deck line or allow an atlatl >> or >> other piece of equipment to easily slip underneath the deck lines. I also >> suspect that the bead prevented the paddler from accidentally "digging" >> into >> the skin of the boat and tearing the skin when he needed to secure his >> equipment . >> >> Since modern day Kayakers tend to emulate their ancient counterparts >> sometimes the bead is unnecessary. On modern day kayaks I find beads are >> needed if the bungie cord is thin and string like. Some kayaks like P&H >> and CD need a few beads to allow a paddler to secure their paddle >> underneath. Other manufacturers like Necky and Seaward use a thicker >> bungie >> cord on their kayak decks. I have never had a problem slipping a paddle >> blade underneath thicker bungie cord in rough waters with one hand. >> >> Mind you adding a few coloured beads to ones boat does make it look >> attractive and it doesn't hurt. >> >> Has anyone found that putting beads on their bungie cordst wears down the >> gelco on their kayaks ? If so are they wooden or plastic beads? >> >> Dave >> >> ************************************************************************** >> * >> PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List >> Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >> Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >> Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ >> ************************************************************************** >> * >> >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ >*************************************************************************** > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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