I think it was Sandy Kramer who came up with the idea. I believe an owl should definitely be part of the logo for helping identify each other at symposiums and other venues. Wise and owls go together. A paddle should be there too for the Paddle end of the PaddleWise name. There has got to be someone out there willing to work up a logo and do the work of making up something that can be distributed to the group at cost or a small profit. Not me. I don't know anything about this. One of the simplest approaches is a button in a bright color with the logo on it. Wouldn't be a good idea to pin it to your dry suit but on your PFD should be okay. And it is easy enough to put on a shirt or hat when attending a symposium. Rust? Buy several or spray it with silicon to reduce the corrosion. Having such buttons displayed would be a way of attracting more people to PaddleWise. They see the owl and paddle and ask about it. I suppose this will lead to arguments about getting too big, letting the riff-raff in, etc. But the more peopl are on PaddleWise and hearing good advice, the more informed they will be to make intelligent decisions for themselves by way of gear and risk management. Of course, baseball caps and T-shirts would be fine too. Takes more work and capital and sizes considerations. Buttons are uni-sex and uni-size. Distribution could be by mail or by having a supply at paddle shows and symposiums. For example, I bet at least 50 people from this list are likely to walk the aisles of the Jersey Paddler Paddlesport show in late March. Distribute some there. Maybe Debbie of Atlantic Sea Kayakers might be willing to have some at her booth. Anyone, someone please work up a design or several people do several designs. Submit them to Jackie Fenton and her Bob Myer for her thoughts as PaddleWise is her creation. Then arrange production of the buttons and we each can order them via a website or email or distribute at places like Paddlesport, although that may be too soon for that show. Any way, these are my thoughts. ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
ralph diaz wrote: > > I think it was Sandy Kramer who came up with the idea. I believe an owl > should definitely be part of the logo for helping identify each other at > symposiums and other venues. Wise and owls go together. A paddle > should be there too for the Paddle end of the PaddleWise name. Both good ideas. Maybe the paddle could be in the owl's beak or talons. And bearded, 'cause so many of us are chronologically challenged. <g> > [snip] One of the simplest approaches is a button in a bright color with > the logo on it. Patches are also good. With computerized sewing they are easy. My paddling partner of yore is just now exiting the sewing machine business, and has contacts with several folks who can morph a design onto cloth. Stitched designs are durable and classy. (Used to have a pink flamingo on my hat, but the wind took it in Skincuttle Inlet two years ago. Sigh ... some rockfish is wearing that darn thing!) > Having such buttons displayed would be a way of attracting more people > to PaddleWise. They see the owl and paddle and ask about it. I suppose > this will lead to arguments about getting too big, letting the riff-raff > in, etc. But the more peopl are on PaddleWise and hearing good advice, > the more informed they will be to make intelligent decisions for > themselves by way of gear and risk management. I am about the most "anti-organized group" person any of you is likely to know. Even so, I would wear proudly the Paddlewise patch/badge/whatever. This group embodies almost all the good things about paddling and almost none of the undesirable things. Ralph hits the nail on the head with the comments about "good advice" and encouraging "intelligent decisions." It is the no-holds-barred ethic which nourishes the culture here. I love watching Broze and Winters bat each other about, and often hoot loudly when I read Doug Lloyd's stuff! -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR early Paddlewiser, soon to be a geezer (Paddlegeezer?) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
How about a horizontal paddle with an owl perched on it? At 07:47 AM 2/9/00 -0800, Dave Kruger wrote: >ralph diaz wrote: >> >> I think it was Sandy Kramer who came up with the idea. I believe an owl >> should definitely be part of the logo for helping identify each other at >> symposiums and other venues. Wise and owls go together. A paddle >> should be there too for the Paddle end of the PaddleWise name. > >Both good ideas. Maybe the paddle could be in the owl's beak or talons. And >bearded, 'cause so many of us are chronologically challenged. <g> > >> [snip] One of the simplest approaches is a button in a bright color with >> the logo on it. > >Patches are also good. With computerized sewing they are easy. My paddling >partner of yore is just now exiting the sewing machine business, and has >contacts with several folks who can morph a design onto cloth. Stitched >designs are durable and classy. (Used to have a pink flamingo on my hat, but >the wind took it in Skincuttle Inlet two years ago. Sigh ... some rockfish is >wearing that darn thing!) > >> Having such buttons displayed would be a way of attracting more people >> to PaddleWise. They see the owl and paddle and ask about it. I suppose >> this will lead to arguments about getting too big, letting the riff-raff >> in, etc. But the more peopl are on PaddleWise and hearing good advice, >> the more informed they will be to make intelligent decisions for >> themselves by way of gear and risk management. > >I am about the most "anti-organized group" person any of you is likely to >know. Even so, I would wear proudly the Paddlewise patch/badge/whatever. This >group embodies almost all the good things about paddling and almost none of the >undesirable things. Ralph hits the nail on the head with the comments about >"good advice" and encouraging "intelligent decisions." It is the >no-holds-barred ethic which nourishes the culture here. I love watching Broze >and Winters bat each other about, and often hoot loudly when I read Doug >Lloyd's stuff! > >-- >Dave Kruger >Astoria, OR >early Paddlewiser, soon to be a geezer (Paddlegeezer?) >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not >to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ >*************************************************************************** > > Gary Pewitt N9ZSV/KT gpewitt_at_execpc.com 6120 W. Calumet Rd. Apt 204 414-355-8147 Milwaukee, WI 53223 Sturgeon's Law "90% of everything is crap." *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Anyone, someone please work up a design or several people do several > designs. Submit them to Jackie Fenton and her Bob Myer for her thoughts > as PaddleWise is her creation. Then arrange production of the buttons > and we each can order them via a website or email or distribute at > places like Paddlesport, although that may be too soon for that show. Jackie, if you'd like some help on this, or want to delegate the task to me, I'm available. Here are a few ideas: What say we set a specific time for submissions; they can be sent to me. I could compile them on a web page and maybe we could do a vote on the design. I could prepare the design for production. I could then do the legwork of getting the buttons made and distributing them. Any ideas on how to do that? Karen *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Owl feathered, paddle unfeathered. 8^) At 12:23 PM 2/9/00 -0500, Ricci, Gail wrote: >Like that idea. Feathered or unfeathered? Also like the idea of a patch >vs. a button. It won't rust. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Gary Pewitt [mailto:gpewitt_at_mail.execpc.com] >Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 2:02 PM >To: Dave Kruger; PaddleWise >Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Logo for PaddleWise > > >How about a horizontal paddle with an owl perched on it? > > >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not >to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ >*************************************************************************** > > Gary Pewitt N9ZSV/KT gpewitt_at_execpc.com 6120 W. Calumet Rd. Apt 204 414-355-8147 Milwaukee, WI 53223 Sturgeon's Law "90% of everything is crap." *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:23:18 -0500, Ricci, Gail wrote: >Like that idea. Feathered or unfeathered? Which? The paddle or the owl? --allan *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Allan McLane wrote: > On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:23:18 -0500, Ricci, Gail wrote: > > >Like that idea. Feathered or unfeathered? > > Which? The paddle or the owl? > > --allan > > Why don't we go for both? The owl can be feathered, the paddle should not be. (It looks better that way.) Mike, who uses his paddle feathered. (I was going to say I paddle feathered, but the mental image was too much.) -- Paddling along through fog so thick that only one's thoughts are visible, your reverie is abruptly shattered by the ancient cry of a great blue heron as she lifts uncertainly from the brilliant blue of a mussel-shell beach witnessed only by the brooding, wet spruce....your passage home seems as much back through time as it does through space. Mark H Hunt *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Patch or pin, I guess I now know what is going on the left shoulder strap of my PFD. If it is a patch I still have a few feet of 2 inch wide seat belt webbing so I don't have to sew directly onto the PFD. I'll have to order several so I can have one on my jacket, one on the PFD, ...... Mike -- Paddling along through fog so thick that only one's thoughts are visible, your reverie is abruptly shattered by the ancient cry of a great blue heron as she lifts uncertainly from the brilliant blue of a mussel-shell beach witnessed only by the brooding, wet spruce....your passage home seems as much back through time as it does through space. Mark H Hunt *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Gary Pewitt wrote: How about a horizontal paddle with an owl perched on it? That has my vote. AND owl feathered paddle not!. Will there be a secret handshake for the lurkers? Hal Wilton, NH Power your boat with carbohydrates, not hydrocarbons. http://www.jlc.net/~hlevin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hal Levine wrote: > > Gary Pewitt wrote: > How about a horizontal paddle with an owl perched on it? > > That has my vote. AND owl feathered paddle not!. > Will there be a secret handshake for the lurkers? No secret handshake but an oracle's question. How many coasts does the United States have? Most people might say two (Atlantic and Pacific). Some might add a third, the Gulf of Mexico, or a fourth, the Great Lakes. But PaddleWisers, being the argumentative selves they are, would say seven coastlines and successfully argue that point, thus proving they _are_ PaddleWisers. :-) It is like what I understand Israelis say about themselves (Josh, please confirm). How many points of view do you get when two Israelis argue? Three. ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
ralph diaz wrote(in a lot less edited version): > > I think it was Sandy Kramer who came up with the idea. I believe an owl > should definitely be part of the logo for helping identify each other at > symposiums and other venues. Wise and owls go together. A paddle > should be there too for the Paddle end of the PaddleWise name. > > There has got to be someone out there willing to work up a logo and do > the work of making up something > > Of course, baseball caps and T-shirts would be fine too. Takes more > work and capital and sizes considerations. Buttons are uni-sex and > uni-size. > Any way, these are my thoughts. > I try to avoid the think thing, but I do have a bargain approach to this. There are iron on decal like sheets available at office supply stores for tee shirts at a fairly inexpensive price. They may be printed from an ink jet printer. I have had very good success with these on 50/50 mixed shirts (better than 100% cotton shirts) with a dry iron on a hot setting, using pillow cases on formica (does not work well with an ironing board). The image could be available for upload from a site or through direct email or people could send an SASE envelope with some change to somebody (about 1.00 a sheet). Then one could put it on anything they want- white that is. I think it would be really interesting to have a few different imagery on a theme to choose from, I am sure there would be lots of ideas. By the way, most of the experience I have had with the iron on decal like sheets have been with continuos tone images- though lettering was fairly good, not as good as screen printing. -- : : Gabriel L Romeu : http://studiofurniture.com furniture from the workshop : http://members.xoom.com/gabrielR life as a tourist, daily journal : http://users.aol.com/romeugp paintings, photographs, etchings, objects *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Has anyone used those iron-on transfer things you can print out on a bubble jet printer? If they work as advertised the logo could be put on the website as a jpeg and anyone could copy and print it and resize to fit whatever garment it was ironed onto. Bob *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Pewitt <gpewitt_at_mail.execpc.com> > How about a horizontal paddle with an owl perched on it? Feathered or unfeathered? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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