I was pulled over yesterday morning, lights and sirens going off, as if I was the nations most wanted character. Cowboy cop swaggers up with more gear and ordinance on his belt than Batman, wants me to step out of the jeep and show I.D, registration, and insurance papers. I do so, and informed that I have violated statute CAL-842-N1013 of the state of California by not having a red flag measuring 12" x 12" displayed on the rear of materials cartopped protruding more than 2' from the rear of the vehicle. Guilty as hell, big yellow kayak seen for miles, the officer goes forward to write out the citation and his partner wanders back. "Lucky for you that he doesn't take you back to the house and whip you: he's been on the job 2 weeks and is greener than owl shit". "Give a guy a gun and a book of statutes and he's ready to clean up the world". "So what about this kayaking anyway?; I'm about to retire and my Ethel doesn't like me hanging around the house". "Looks like something I could get into". We exchange phone numbers, and within hearing of the other officer, Glenn says, "don't forget that red flag next time or the pee-wee police might bust you big time". I call the Court House and am told that my infraction is $29.50, due and payable within 30 days, after that I suppose I'll be flogged, whipped, and have my knees broken by an officer of the state of California.. The moon is in Neptune, and I have an irrational urge to moon a government official. -Nick *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
"Officer, you mean my red warning flag has blown off?! Thanks a million for calling it to my attention." Nick Von Robison wrote: > I was pulled over yesterday morning, lights and sirens going off, as if > I was the nations most wanted character. Cowboy cop swaggers up with > more gear and ordinance on his belt than Batman, wants me to step out of > the jeep and show I.D, registration, and insurance papers. I do so, and > informed that I have violated statute CAL-842-N1013 of the state of > California by not having a red flag measuring 12" x 12" displayed on the > rear of materials cartopped protruding more than 2' from the rear of the > vehicle. Guilty as hell, big yellow kayak seen for miles, the officer > goes forward to write out the citation and his partner wanders back. > "Lucky for you that he doesn't take you back to the house and whip you: > he's been on the job 2 weeks and is greener than owl shit". "Give a guy > a gun and a book of statutes and he's ready to clean up the world". "So > what about this kayaking anyway?; I'm about to retire and my Ethel > doesn't like me hanging around the house". "Looks like something I > could get into". We exchange phone numbers, and within hearing of the > other officer, Glenn says, "don't forget that red flag next time or the > pee-wee police might bust you big time". I call the Court House and am > told that my infraction is $29.50, due and payable within 30 days, after > that I suppose I'll be flogged, whipped, and have my knees broken by an > officer of the state of California.. The moon is in Neptune, and I have > an irrational urge to moon a government official. > > -Nick > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not > to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Cute story Nick. Sorry to hear about the fine though. Very few of us ever think about the need to flag the boats. The law is clear enough. A friend just attaches a 2' piece of red webbing to the stern, not enough to satisfy the great state of California, but it seems to work well enough around here. Jed *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Gee, I don't have any trouble with my 14' 8" kayak on my 14' car :^) I bought a short kayak because I only had a 13' long living room in my apartment, but maybe Big Brother was sending me subliminal warning messages all along. It's not a petty thing to cite you for having an unflagged oversized load. You wouldn't think so if you ran into a ladder or a 2X4 sticking out past the end of the truck in front of you. If you're going to carry a long kayak, flag it. Darrell Lee Alameda, CA snorkler_at_juno.com On Sun, 09 Apr 2000 07:34:53 -0700 Nick Von Robison <n.v.rob_at_deltanet.com> writes: > I was pulled over yesterday morning, lights and sirens going off, as > if *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Cute story Nick. Sorry to hear about the fine though. Very few of us >ever think about the need to flag the boats. The law is clear enough. A >friend just attaches a 2' piece of red webbing to the stern, not enough to >satisfy the great state of California, but it seems to work well enough >around here. > Alas, this varies enormously. There's probably a Federal guideline but most states have their own regulations. New Jersey now requires a red flag if the thing extends more than 4 feet., for example. Maryland, the last time I checked, was more like 2 feet. FWIW, Maryland also limits rack width to lane width, whereas NJ says rack extensions can be no more than half again the vehicle width. JP *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>"Officer, you mean my red warning flag has blown off?! Thanks a million for >calling it to my attention." "Oh, is that so, son? Well, since you *had* a flag, and you didn't attach it properly, and if blew off, we're going to have to cite you for littering. Now, the fine for not having a flag at all is $30, but the fine for littering is $200. I suggest you attach the next one better." *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I carried a kayak on my car top From Houston to South Florida and back qnd was not stopped. I didn't check the state laws along the way. Maybe I was just lucky. Robert To view the Texas laws go to link: http://capitol.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/codes/TN000099.html The Texas Requirements as per the above link (notice these are 1995 laws): Sec. 547.382. Lighting Equipment on Projecting Loads. (a) A vehicle transporting a load that extends to the rear at least four feet beyond the bed or body of the vehicle shall display on the extreme end of the load at the times specified in Section 547.302(a): (1) two red lamps visible at a distance of at least 500 feet from the rear; (2) two red reflectors that indicate the maximum width and are visible at nighttime at all distances from 100 to 600 feet from the rear when directly in front of lawful lower beams of headlamps; and (3) two red lamps, one on each side, that indicate the maximum overhang and are visible at a distance of at least 500 feet from the side. (b) At all other times, a vehicle transporting a load that extends beyond the vehicle's sides or more than four feet beyond the vehicle's rear shall display red flags that: (1) are at least 12 inches square; (2) mark the extremities of the load; and (3) are placed where a lamp is required by this section. Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Thanks to all that have commiserated with me on my "bust". I have paid my $29.50, but have not mooned the mayor. Yet. Nick *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Does anyone know what the law is in New York State? On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 12:20:16 -0400 "Joe Pylka" <pylka_at_castle.net> writes: > > Cute story Nick. Sorry to hear about the fine though. Very few > of us > >ever think about the need to flag the boats. The law is clear > enough. A > >friend just attaches a 2' piece of red webbing to the stern, not > enough to > >satisfy the great state of California, but it seems to work well > enough > >around here. > > > Alas, this varies enormously. There's probably a Federal > guideline > but most states have their own regulations. New Jersey now requires > a red > flag if the thing extends more than 4 feet., for example. Maryland, > the > last time I checked, was more like 2 feet. > FWIW, Maryland also limits rack width to lane width, > whereas NJ > says rack extensions can be no more than half again the vehicle > width. > > JP > > > ************************************************************************* ** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author > and not > to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > ************************************************************************* ** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Nick Sorry about the $29.50 fine -- but a hilarious tale nonetheless!!! And I suspect this type of statute is something we all ought to look into. Sounds like more paddling lessons too!!! [Just hope he doesn't snort!!! >>g<< ] Cheers! Jim Tynan Pike Road AL --- Nick Von Robison <n.v.rob_at_deltanet.com> wrote: > I was pulled over yesterday morning, lights and > sirens going off, as if > I was the nations most wanted character. Cowboy cop > swaggers up with > more gear and ordinance on his belt than Batman, > wants me to step out of > the jeep and show I.D, registration, and insurance > papers. I do so, and > informed that I have violated statute CAL-842-N1013 > of the state of > California by not having a red flag measuring 12" x > 12" displayed on the > rear of materials cartopped protruding more than 2' > from the rear of the > vehicle. Guilty as hell, big yellow kayak seen for > miles, the officer > goes forward to write out the citation and his > partner wanders back. > "Lucky for you that he doesn't take you back to the > house and whip you: > he's been on the job 2 weeks and is greener than owl > shit". "Give a guy > a gun and a book of statutes and he's ready to clean > up the world". "So > what about this kayaking anyway?; I'm about to > retire and my Ethel > doesn't like me hanging around the house". "Looks > like something I > could get into". We exchange phone numbers, and > within hearing of the > other officer, Glenn says, "don't forget that red > flag next time or the > pee-wee police might bust you big time". I call the > Court House and am > told that my infraction is $29.50, due and payable > within 30 days, after > that I suppose I'll be flogged, whipped, and have my > knees broken by an > officer of the state of California.. The moon is in > Neptune, and I have > an irrational urge to moon a government official. > > -Nick > > > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings > copyright the author and not > to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's > permission > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: > paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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