Armed with some good information from Paddlewise about boats that are better for larger paddlers I've been out shopping for a new boat. I've sat in a lot of them...talked to a lot of dealers, went to two paddle shows and a few garages of people selling used boats. I even drove 45 minutes to look at what was advertised as a 17' kayak that turned out to be a canoe with spray skirts. Someone was confused. I finally made a decision and bought a brand new Sealution II XL. It's plenty big enough for me...almost too big in fact. But now I'll have the room in case I want to put in a pool table later. Of course it was cold and raining the night I picked it up and for the next 3 days. Last summer we had record drought here in the north east until the weekend I bought my Seadarts...then it poured. Never mind that El Nino crap...kayaks control the weather. I've paddled in the rain and I've paddled in the cold...but I wasn't real thrilled about paddling in the cold rain. So for the next few days I spent a lot of time in my garage sitting in the boat with a fan on me simulating a windy crossing...staying away from glaciers of course. I tied to get my son to rock the boat and yell boom once in a while so I can practice paddling in bad weather but he just walked away mumbling something. Finally 3 days later I peaked out my office window and saw it...the sun. I made an excuse to leave work and 45 minutes later I had the new boat loaded on my truck and headed for the water. I picked a lake near me which according to my topo software is 1.48 miles long and 0.4 miles at the widest point. I figured there I could never be more then 0.2 miles from the shoreline. The air temp was 46 and the water temp was about the same and there was about a 15mph wind. I figured it was too cold for anyone else to be out on the lake and I'd have it all to myself....I was wrong. Along with the dozen or so canoes and jon boats out fishing the Yale rowing team was there training in 3 four man rowing shells. I wasn't crazy about having an audience or the possibility of getting center punched buy a rowing shell...those guys are crazy, then don't even look where they're going. The good side was at least there was someone there if I got in trouble. I unloaded the new boat and a pile of new gear including a bilge pump, spray skirt, a wet suit, paddle float and a new PFD to replace the "fisherman" life jacket I was using...is a PFD a politically correct life jacket? I wanted to take my copy of "The Complete Book of Sea Kayaking" but I figured the pages might get soggy so I left it. I wasn't sure if I should take the paddle float...I'd read they are essential safety equipment, not much use and that they are downright dangerous. So I decided I'd take it and not use it. Now I had a big decision to make...would I take the stainless steel .44 magnum or the 12ga loaded with slugs. the Yalies didn't look all that threatening so I opted for just 10% pepper spray and a couple of bear bangers. A few minutes later I was ready...sitting in my new boat, wet suit zipped up, skirt secured, PFD fastened tight...I pushed off. I drifted for a few seconds waiting to see of I would capsize or sink from being over loaded but I didn't do either...cool. I reached for the cord to lower the rudder but it was stuck...poo, forget to take the off the bungee. Ok...that's easy...back to the boat ramp, unseal myself, pop it off and push off again. Rudder drops down, I start to paddle and I'm moving...life is good. I maneuvered out of the channel that leads to the lake and waved to a guy in a Folbot coming back in...no PFD. In fact I noticed I was the only one on the lake wearing a PFD and that included the rowing teams...are they exempt? In a few minutes I was out on the lake and moving along nicely, not sure I like the rudder because it's another thing to think about but I'm trying to get the hang of it. The plan was to keep it simple...just follow the shoreline and get the feel of the boat. I'm pleasantly surprised, I'm having no problem with it and in fact it's kinda nice. I did 2 lengths of the lake without capsizing or being rammed by a rowing shell and my confidence was growing. I had the footbraces a little to far forward so I headed for a beach so I could get out and adjust them. I ran the bow of the boat up onto the beach and wiggled out like I've done dozens of times in my garage floor. This time the boat rocked and my size 13s caught the thighbrace as I climbed out. The next few seconds are fuzzy but the result was me on my back in 6" of water with my feet still in the boat. This was apparently amusing to a couple of guys fishing up the beach because they were laughing...and rolling on the ground. Now I wished I had brought the .44 mag. I've been reading the thread about using the paddle to get in and out with great deal of interest. I adjusted the foot braces and had a short talk with the fishermen who turned out to be ok guys and interested in kayaking. After we decided that it was in fact funny I was ready to go again. I managed to get myself back in the boat and pushed off again. I spent about an hour following the shoreline until they pulled the rowing shells our of the water. Now I had more room so I zig zagged back and forth across the lake just playing and seeing how the wind affected the boat from different directions. The fishermen had gone so I went back to the beach and sat a few yards away trying some bracing and edging to see how far I could lean it without getting wet. I really like the feeling of almost wearing the boat rather then just sitting in it. By now it was getting dark so I decided not to push my luck and head in. There was time to do one last length of the lake and I wanted to see how fast I could do it. The best I've done it in the Seadart was 19 minutes and was curious how much faster the Sealution was. I'm an engineer so I don't believe anything I can't measure. The bow touched the boat ramp in a few seconds under 17 minutes without even trying hard...very cool. Better than that, this time I was able to get out of the boat and on my feet without getting wet. I loaded it all back in the truck and drove home with an ear to ear grin and lifting my hip and dropping my knee in the corners....damn I love this stuff. Disclaimers... I hope none of this offends anyone. I'm poking fun but I've got nothing but respect for the knowledge and experience I've seen here on PW Also please don't confuse my attempt at humor for having the wrong attitude about what I'm doing. When it comes down to me in the boat and in the water I am very serious. 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Dave, Welcome to the zany, wet, and wild world of kayaking! Sounds like you have found a new pastime. =:-o) Steve Scherrer <23 year veteran> Alder Creek Kayak and Canoe 250 NE Tomahawk Isle Dr Portland, OR 97217 Phone: 503.285.0464 Fax: 503.285.0106 Web site: http://www.aldercreek.com Email: acks_at_teleport.com ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Seales" <dseal_at_ntplx.com> Armed with some good information from Paddlewise about boats that are .......... > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi David, > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net I wasn't sure > if I should > take the paddle float...I'd read they are essential safety equipment, not > much use and that they are downright dangerous. So I decided I'd take it > and not use it. Now I had a big decision to make...would I take the > stainless steel .44 magnum or the 12ga loaded with slugs. the > Yalies didn't > look all that threatening so I opted for just 10% pepper spray > and a couple > of bear bangers. Humor is a huge asset to kayakers. I'd say you are off to a fine start. Cheers, -- Rob Cookson 3 Hats Design INTERNET PRINT ILLUSTRATION 5201 15 Ave NW Suite 220 Seattle, WA 98107 206.851.8202 direct line 206.784.1641 main office phone 206.784.2231 main office fax mailto:rob_at_3hats.com http://www.3hats.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Thanks for the report Dave. You had me laughing with you! I look forward to reading more of your adventures. Please remain adventurous! Melissa Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I love it !!!! I know the feeling. Got a new boat a few weeks ago. Clumsy getting in from the dock. Chatting with an OG (old-geezer) on the dock saying it was my first time out in the new boat. "I wouldn't go out too far" was his parting comment. Self-rescues can wait. I'm working on unloading-launching-landing and loading without looking stupid. Bob *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 4/26/00 4:30:10 AM, vaughan_at_jps.net writes: << I'm working on unloading-launching-landing and loading without looking stupid. >> Let me know when you figure it out, Bob. I could use some pointers. Jed *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 4/26/00 4:30:10 AM, vaughan_at_jps.net writes: > > << I'm working on unloading-launching-landing > and loading without looking stupid. >> My load/unload procedure has "matured" considerably as: 1. I have done it a lot. 2. My upper body strength has increased. It pays to paddle a lot. I do not use the paddle, any more, to launch, either off a low dock or off a beach. I used to, but a Twelve Step program of therapy directed at eliminating my paddle shaft abuse really worked for me. The Derek Hutchinson/Nigel Foster Rehabilitation Center gets my strong endorsement. On the serious side, initial placement of one foot in the cockpit to maximize balance seems to be the critical bit. Just off center, to the side the foot is normally on, allows me to balance on one leg in the yak for the microsecond needed to lower my bod into the cockpit, assisted with intense coaming clutching. 'Course, all my boats have enormous initial stability. I could not use my method with a narrow boat, or one with a lot of vee in the hull. YMMV, and may your tush end up cockpit-situated, and not water-saturated! -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Dave - Very nice trip report. Thanks for posting it. Bill Hansen Ithaca NY *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Make sure you keep a copy of this post. I'm sure you will find it amusing in a few years! Cya... owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net wrote on 4/25/00 9:55 pm: >Armed with some good >information from Paddlewise >about boats that are >better for larger paddlers >I've been out shopping for a >new boat. I've sat >in a lot of them...talked to a >lot of dealers, went to two >paddle shows and >a few garages of people >selling used boats. I even >drove 45 minutes to >look at what was advertised >as a 17' kayak that turned >out to be a canoe >with spray skirts. Someone >was confused. I finally made >a decision and >bought a brand new >Sealution II XL. It's plenty big >enough for me...almost >too big in fact. But now I'll >have the room in case I want >to put in a >pool table later. > Of course it was cold and >raining the night I picked it >up and for the >next 3 days. Last summer >we had record drought here >in the north east until >the weekend I bought my >Seadarts...then it poured. >Never mind that El Nino >crap...kayaks control the >weather. I've paddled in the >rain and I've >paddled in the cold...but I >wasn't real thrilled about >paddling in the cold >rain. So for the next few >days I spent a lot of time in >my garage sitting >in the boat with a fan on me >simulating a windy >crossing...staying away >from glaciers of course. I tied >to get my son to rock the >boat and yell >boom once in a while so I can >practice paddling in bad >weather but he just >walked away mumbling >something. Finally 3 days >later I peaked out my office >window and saw it...the sun. I >made an excuse to leave >work and 45 minutes >later I had the new boat >loaded on my truck and >headed for the water. > I picked a lake near me >which according to my topo >software is 1.48 >miles long and 0.4 miles at >the widest point. I figured >there I could never >be more then 0.2 miles from >the shoreline. The air temp >was 46 and the >water temp was about the >same and there was about a >15mph wind. I figured >it was too cold for anyone >else to be out on the lake >and I'd have it all >to myself....I was wrong. >Along with the dozen or so >canoes and jon boats >out fishing the Yale rowing >team was there training in 3 >four man rowing >shells. I wasn't crazy about >having an audience or the >possibility of >getting center punched buy >a rowing shell...those guys >are crazy, then >don't even look where >they're going. The good side >was at least there was >someone there if I got in >trouble. > I unloaded the new boat >and a pile of new gear >including a bilge pump, >spray skirt, a wet suit, >paddle float and a new PFD >to replace the >"fisherman" life jacket I was >using...is a PFD a politically >correct life >jacket? I wanted to take my >copy of "The Complete Book >of Sea Kayaking" but >I figured the pages might get >soggy so I left it. I wasn't >sure if I should >take the paddle float...I'd >read they are essential >safety equipment, not >much use and that they are >downright dangerous. So I >decided I'd take it >and not use it. Now I had a big >decision to make...would I >take the >stainless steel .44 magnum >or the 12ga loaded with >slugs. the Yalies didn't >look all that threatening so I >opted for just 10% pepper >spray and a couple >of bear bangers. > A few minutes later I was >ready...sitting in my new >boat, wet suit >zipped up, skirt secured, PFD >fastened tight...I pushed off. >I drifted for >a few seconds waiting to see >of I would capsize or sink >from being over >loaded but I didn't do >either...cool. I reached for >the cord to lower the >rudder but it was stuck...poo, >forget to take the off the >bungee. >Ok...that's easy...back to the >boat ramp, unseal myself, >pop it off and >push off again. Rudder drops >down, I start to paddle and >I'm moving...life >is good. I maneuvered out of >the channel that leads to the >lake and waved >to a guy in a Folbot coming >back in...no PFD. In fact I >noticed I was the >only one on the lake wearing >a PFD and that included the >rowing teams...are >they exempt? > In a few minutes I was out >on the lake and moving along >nicely, not >sure I like the rudder >because it's another thing to >think about but I'm >trying to get the hang of it. >The plan was to keep it >simple...just follow >the shoreline and get the >feel of the boat. I'm >pleasantly surprised, I'm >having no problem with it >and in fact it's kinda nice. I >did 2 lengths of >the lake without capsizing or >being rammed by a rowing >shell and my >confidence was growing. I >had the footbraces a little to >far forward so I >headed for a beach so I could >get out and adjust them. I >ran the bow of the >boat up onto the beach and >wiggled out like I've done >dozens of times in my >garage floor. This time the >boat rocked and my size 13s >caught the >thighbrace as I climbed out. >The next few seconds are >fuzzy but the result >was me on my back in 6" of >water with my feet still in >the boat. This was >apparently amusing to a >couple of guys fishing up the >beach because they >were laughing...and rolling on >the ground. Now I wished I >had brought the >.44 mag. I've been reading >the thread about using the >paddle to get in and >out with great deal of >interest. > I adjusted the foot braces >and had a short talk with the >fishermen who >turned out to be ok guys and >interested in kayaking. After >we decided that >it was in fact funny I was >ready to go again. I managed >to get myself back >in the boat and pushed off >again. I spent about an hour >following the >shoreline until they pulled >the rowing shells our of the >water. Now I had >more room so I zig zagged >back and forth across the >lake just playing and >seeing how the wind affected >the boat from different >directions. The >fishermen had gone so I went >back to the beach and sat a >few yards away >trying some bracing and >edging to see how far I could >lean it without >getting wet. I really like the >feeling of almost wearing >the boat rather >then just sitting in it. By now >it was getting dark so I >decided not to >push my luck and head in. >There was time to do one >last length of the lake >and I wanted to see how fast >I could do it. The best I've >done it in the >Seadart was 19 minutes and >was curious how much faster >the Sealution was. >I'm an engineer so I don't >believe anything I can't >measure. The bow >touched the boat ramp in a >few seconds under 17 >minutes without even trying >hard...very cool. Better than >that, this time I was able to >get out of the >boat and on my feet without >getting wet. I loaded it all >back in the truck >and drove home with an ear >to ear grin and lifting my hip >and dropping my >knee in the corners....damn I >love this stuff. > >Disclaimers... >I hope none of this offends >anyone. I'm poking fun but >I've got nothing but >respect for the knowledge >and experience I've seen >here on PW >Also please don't confuse my >attempt at humor for >having the wrong attitude >about what I'm doing. 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