>I do maintain, from a European perspective, >that the increased popularity of cheap outboard motors >in the sixties reduced the customer base for folding kayaks / boats. I always thought that one of the main reasons for the decline of interest for folding kayaks in that period, came form the growing ownership of cars... People did not have to transport their kayak by train anymore... (Which worked very well, especially in Germany, German trains even had special prices for that?) The growing use of the outboard motors had its influence on the whole paddling market I think, not only folding boats? Dirk Barends (the Netherlands, Europe) http://huizen.dds.nl/~dbarends/cwp.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dirk Barends" <dbarends_at_xs4all.nl> > >I do maintain, from a European perspective, > >that the increased popularity of cheap outboard motors > >in the sixties reduced the customer base for folding kayaks / boats. > > I always thought that one of the main reasons > for the decline of interest for folding kayaks in that period, > came form the growing ownership of cars... > People did not have to transport their kayak by train anymore... > (Which worked very well, especially in Germany, > German trains even had special prices for that?) Good point. For the matter, whether in Europe or North America, without the use of a car, how many people would have rigid kayaks? :-) ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Welcome to all the new subscribers to the list, and I just wanted to extend an extra welcome to those of you joining from Europe. Paddlewise has always had a pretty international flavor (or flavour), but seems to have become even more worldly lately. Having spent close to 10 years living in Europe (Vienna), I really appreciate the non US-centric viewpoint. The US can sometimes be a big lumbering beast and ignore the fact that not everyone speaks English, measures distance in miles, and reads the temp in Fahrenheit, or lives in the northern hemisphere. Though because I live in Minnesota now, I'd like to point out that -40 is -40 everywhere. When possible, I'd love to see people convert their weights and temps. Maybe someone can point out a good utility somewhere on the net that make this easier. Now, let's discuss that Paddlewise foreign exchange program.... -Patrick *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Patrick wrote; > When possible, I'd love to see people convert their weights and > temps. Maybe someone can point out a good utility somewhere on the > net that make this easier. go to http://www.geocities.com/tempconverter/ By gosh, -40 IS -40 everywhere!!!! *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
http://www.bioscience.org/urllists/convert.htm Patrick, as I see it, it would get quite cumbersome to translate temperature to 5 or more different measures, length (distance) into the multitude of possibilities- I think it would be handy if a qualifier/context is appended to any units of measure. The recipient should go the extra mile = 16090000000000 angstroms = .333 leagues = 8 furlongs = 320 rods = 0.29 leagues (sea)= 880 fathoms, and of course, 380200 picas. Patrick Maun wrote: > > When possible, I'd love to see people convert their weights and > temps. Maybe someone can point out a good utility somewhere on the > net that make this easier. > > -- Gabriel L Romeu http://studiofurniture.com İİİİİ furniture from the workshop http://studiofurniture.com/diary İİİİİ life as a tourist, daily journal http://studiofurniture.com/paint İİİİİ paintings, photographs, etchings, objects *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
OK, now you guys are just getting crazy. Let's just use picas. -Patrick At 12:26 AM -0500 2/11/01, Gabriel L Romeu wrote: >http://www.bioscience.org/urllists/convert.htm > >Patrick, as I see it, it would get quite cumbersome to translate >temperature to 5 or more different measures, length (distance) into the >multitude of possibilities- I think it would be handy if a >qualifier/context is appended to any units of measure. > >The recipient should go the extra mile = 16090000000000 angstroms = .333 >leagues = 8 furlongs = 320 rods = 0.29 leagues (sea)= 880 fathoms, and >of course, 380200 picas. > >Patrick Maun wrote: > >> >> When possible, I'd love to see people convert their weights and >> temps. Maybe someone can point out a good utility somewhere on the > > net that make this easier. >> *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi Patrick, I haven't seen you for a while. Don't forget the Inland Sea Kayakers dinner at Bascali's tonight, and the pool session next Sunday. Some new people will be joining us tonight, possibly including one of our neighbors who very much wants to try sea kayaking after seeing our kayaks around the neighborhood. Chuck Holst -2 degrees C.and snowing in Saint Paul -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Maun [SMTP:pmaun_at_bitstream.net] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 11:22 PM To: PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net Subject: [Paddlewise] Those Wacky Europeans >> When possible, I'd love to see people convert their weights and temps. Maybe someone can point out a good utility somewhere on the net that make this easier. >> *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 2/10/01 12:35:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, dbarends_at_xs4all.nl writes: << The growing use of the outboard motors had its influence on the whole paddling market I think, not only folding boats? >> Folding boats pretty much were the paddling market during the period under discussion here (with the exception of a few plywood boats and some early fiber glass ones). Rlaph C. Hoehn Ralph_at_PouchBoats.com www.PouchBoats.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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