"An outbreak of red tide along Florida's west coast has spread to Tampa Bay where dangerous levels of the toxic algae pose an unprecedented threat to the estuary's inhabitants." See this site for complete story: http://www.tampatrib.com/MGAC7VO5FTC.html Other links for more info about red tide: Several links (including updates and FAQ) about red tide on the GASP website at: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/red-tide.html START: Solutions to Avoid Red Tide (What is Red Tide?, Effects, Research) http://www.start1.com/ Jackie *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Now you have me worried ;-) Is the red tide in Florida the same as the red tide that we get in California? We have always paddled in it---but I don't remember anyone intentionally rolling in it. Is it safe for paddlers to be in this? Steve Holtzman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Fenton" <jackie_at_intelenet.net> To: <paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: October 30, 2001 6:56 PM Subject: [Paddlewise] Tampa FL Bay Area Red Tide Outbreak Hits High > "An outbreak of red tide along Florida's west coast has spread to > Tampa Bay where dangerous levels of the toxic algae pose an > unprecedented threat to the estuary's inhabitants." > > See this site for complete story: > http://www.tampatrib.com/MGAC7VO5FTC.html > > Other links for more info about red tide: > > Several links (including updates and FAQ) about red tide on the GASP > website at: > http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/red-tide.html > > START: Solutions to Avoid Red Tide (What is Red Tide?, Effects, > Research) > http://www.start1.com/ > > > Jackie > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed > here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire > responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. > Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net > Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Don't eat any shell fish and you'll be ok. Rolling, while not aesthetic, shouldn't be harmful. The toxins work their way up the food chain, getting more concentrated as you go higher. cu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
My two cents here is that the red tides(a la Galveston) can be HIGHLY irritating to your respiratory system. You don't have to be maximum sensitive to this kind of thing to have a problem so approach with caution. Natalie Wiest Galveston TX -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net]On Behalf Of Bob Denton Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:22 AM To: 'Steven A. Holtzman'; 'Jackie Fenton'; paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Tampa FL Bay Area Red Tide Outbreak Hits High Don't eat any shell fish and you'll be ok. Rolling, while not aesthetic, shouldn't be harmful. The toxins work their way up the food chain, getting more concentrated as you go higher. cu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Thanks for the clarification. I have had quite a bit of experience with cold water red tides which were not much of an issue for bathers or divers, but did kill people who ate shell fish. I do remember comments about reactions from breathing the toxins or algae that were kicked into the air by the surf. We don't have red tides on the East Coast of Florida. The Gulf Stream keeps things moving along. It will be interesting to see what effect the incoming tropical storm/hurricane has on these tides. cya *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
"...and all the waters that were in the river were turned to blood. The fish that were in the river died; and the river became foul and the Egyptians couldn't drink the water from the river; and the blood was throughout all the land of Egypt." (Exodus 7:20-21) Some believe this bible story is the first account of the red tide, others say the blood-red water was caused by a churning of the Nile Delta. The wrath of God or an Algae Bloom??? Researchers still don't understand all there is to know about red tides. We had a red tide in Galveston Bay in 2000 for the first time. Closing the oyster harvest had a huge economic impact and I heard stories about respiratory problems but no other illnesses related to the toxins. The recommendations from health officials is that if you develop breathing problems, leave the affected area and the problems will subside rather quickly. Chris Kuhlman Seabrook, TX Bob Denton wrote: > Thanks for the clarification. I have had quite a bit of experience with > cold water red tides which were not much of an issue for bathers or > divers, but did kill people who ate shell fish. I do remember comments > about reactions from breathing the toxins or algae that were kicked into > the air by the surf. > > We don't have red tides on the East Coast of Florida. The Gulf Stream > keeps things moving along. It will be interesting to see what effect the > incoming tropical storm/hurricane has on these tides. > > cya > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed > here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire > responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. > Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net > Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> From: "Steven A. Holtzman" <sh_at_actglobal.net> > Now you have me worried ;-) Is the red tide in Florida the same as the red > tide that we get in California? We have always paddled in it---but I don't > remember anyone intentionally rolling in it. Is it safe for paddlers to be > in this? It can be confusing. Checking with your state's department of fisheries for quarantine dates might be a good starting point as the color of the water is not always an indicator for toxin-producing organisms. CDHS (California Department of Health Services) website shows annual mussel quarantine is May 1 - Oct 31 (may be extended to include all bivalve shellfish if levels of toxins are unsafe). As to whether or not it is safe for paddlers, it seems to depend on the paddler and level of toxins. Some (maybe most) have no reaction to contact with "red tide." Some people experience skin and eye irritation upon contact with the toxins while some experience respiratory problems just standing on the beach. Of course, eating contaminated shellfish can be deadly. Therefore, you can find websites which say it is safe to swim in "red tide" and others that say it can be unsafe for some individuals to simply stand on the beach near red tide. Seems to depend on the individual and concentration levels. I found this number which is the Shellfish Information Line for CDHS 800-553-4133 You might try these sites for more info.... Regional Contrasts: http://state-of-coast.noaa.gov/bulletins/html/hab_14/regional.html Red tide: http://microbiology.jbpub.com/microfocus.cfm?chapter=25&MFNumber=2 Public Health Fact Sheet (different organisms along different shores): http://www.state.ma.us/dph/fpp/redtide.htm About Red Tide (mentioned in my other message) http://www.marinelab.sarasota.fl.us/~mhenry/WREDTIDE.phtml And to get you really confused about it all :-) Myths About Red Tides http://seafood.ucdavis.edu/Pubs/natural.htm Jackie *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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