Sandy, Does that mean you weren't out marching in Caracas with your PaddleWise t-shirt on? Can't believe you missed an opportunity to meet some Venezuelan PWers! ;--) Tina Portland, OR Gypsykayak wrote: >sandy kramer who has just flown in from Caracas, Venezuela, where I spent >most of the time glued to the TV as we went thru a peaceful "revolution" >followed by a not-so peaceful counter-revolution. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Brian and Scott think of "some sort of cooperative in which we can join with other paddlewisenheimers when traveling to their waters." Fabulouos idea - though my place may be sort out of the way for most of you, I´d like to join that coop - you are welcome over here on Lake of Constance/GER cu on the water (hopefully) Frank *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Have had a lot of out of town paddlers come and enjoy Corpus Christi. See pictures of where to paddle in Corpus Christi as well as other great paddle destinations at... http://community.webshots.com/user/johnsonkw1 Have a local kayak club with 50 members and can forward your e-mail to them when you want company to paddle with while visiting in CC. Could we organize some sort of cooperative in which we can join with other paddlewisenhymers when traveling to their waters? Perhaps a list on the Paddlewise website that lists points of contacts for various cities? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Johnson" <johnsonkw_at_hotmail.com> > > Have a local kayak club with 50 members and can forward your e-mail to > them when you want company to paddle with while visiting in CC. This is another approach to the visiting firemen idea for paddlers, i.e. Paddlewisers may want to identify themselves as a potential point of reference or visit for paddling opportunities but also indicate a local club or paddling hangout to link up with or at. Here in NYC, it is clearly the Downtown Boathouse http://www.downtownboathouse.org which also has links to other local sources. ralph diaz *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Anyone who wants to paddle with other kayakers in the Twin Cities area, Minnesota, or western Lake Superior can leave a message on the Inland Sea Kayakers message board at http://www.isk.canoe-kayak.org. Chuck Holst -----Original Message----- From: ralph diaz [SMTP:rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:12 AM To: Kenneth Johnson; Blankibr_at_aol.com; PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Visiting Paddlers was: Almost that time ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Johnson" <johnsonkw_at_hotmail.com> > > Have a local kayak club with 50 members and can forward your e-mail to > them when you want company to paddle with while visiting in CC. This is another approach to the visiting firemen idea for paddlers, i.e. Paddlewisers may want to identify themselves as a potential point of reference or visit for paddling opportunities but also indicate a local club or paddling hangout to link up with or at. Here in NYC, it is clearly the Downtown Boathouse http://www.downtownboathouse.org which also has links to other local sources. ralph diaz *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Dear List, People have been responding to this thread and inviting visiting paddlers to contact them to get information, arrange to paddle together, etc. All of this would be good if I had a perfect memory, but I don't, therefore I'm not sure I can get this information when I need it. I imagine there is a way to search the archives on the Paddlewise web page if the info makes it into one of the topics, but I fear some data may be lost. I'd like to propose the following: We set up a data base of people on the web page in a manner similar to the "who's who". People could submit their names for any or all of the tiers and participate in the following way: Tier 1 - A person would become familar with the paddling opportunities, launch sites, outfitters, etc. within an X mile (km) radius of where they live. People travelling to their destination would contact them ahead of time and they would be able to recommend where to go, who to rent from, what to watch out for.....and so on. Tier 2 - A person would indicate that they are often available and would be willing to meet with a visitor and paddle together. The host may or may not be able to provide a boat(s). I would think a Tier 2 person would have the knowledge of a Tier 1 person. Tier 3 - A person would indicate that they would be willing to provide some type of lodging, pick-up, ferrying type of service. Loding could be a bed in a spare room, a floor for your sleeping bag or a lawn for your tent. It could be free or at a cost. If this system were in place, I could imagine that, when I need to travel for work, I could schedule in an extra day, contact the local person on the Tier 1 or 2 level and do some paddling in a new place and meet some new people. I know that the work to set this up is non-trival but I think it could become a wonderful Paddlewise resource. How do the rest of you feel? Are there just to many potential problems with this to not even bother or is it worth developing? Dialog please. Bill Leonhardt *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I am all for the tier set-up for visiting paddlers. Scott Simpson Anchorage Alaska "There is always one more thing you can do to influence any situation" Lt. Gen Harold Moore, USA (Ret) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Bill wrote >We set up a data base of people on the web page in a >manner similar to the "who's who". People could submit >their names for any or all of the tiers Kevin wrote >There seems to be a consensus on a lot of the details of "how", >but there is still the question of who is going to create and >maintain such a list. Bill Leonard's tier system seems great to me G'Day Bill, Kevin and Paddlewise Finding a way to record who is available for paddles is a great idea. The tier system sounds excellent. I'm a bit worried about putting it on the Web which is available to the whole world and personally would prefer to restrict my invitation to Paddlewisers. Did think about adding a line to each record in the Who's Who list but that is also a very public list on the Web, although I'ld be happy to do this if that was the concensus. Also very much like Ralph's suggestion of adding a byline address and location to ones email posts but that excludes lurkers from offering and they are an important group within Paddlewise. How about a list posted monthly to the Paddlewise group using Bill's Tier system and supported by Ralph's byline at the end of a post for those who do post. If noone else is available I'ld be happy to organise whatever Paddlewisers and our List Manager agree on. On the other hand Bill if you are willing to take it on I've benefited from your advice in the past and would very much support you. All the best, PeterO Tier 2, Sydney, Australia, *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 06:33 PM 4/12/2002 +1000, PeterO wrote: > >Finding a way to record who is available for paddles is a great idea. The >tier system sounds excellent. I'm a bit worried about putting it on the Web >which is available to the whole world and personally would prefer to >restrict my invitation to Paddlewisers. > > Dear Peter and List, I think Peter make a very valid point about exposing ourselves to the WWW public in general. I am certainly willing to be a Tier 1, 2 and maybe even someday a Tier 3 person to Paddlewisers, because I believe that people who do what we do are mostly good souls and I would want to associate with them. The rest of the world I'm not so sure about. >How about a list posted monthly to the Paddlewise group using Bill's Tier >system and supported by Ralph's byline at the end of a post for those who do >post. If noone else is available I'ld be happy to organise whatever >Paddlewisers and our List Manager agree on. On the other hand Bill if you >are willing to take it on I've benefited from your advice in the past and >would very much support you. I think this sounds like a good way to go. I'm always reluctant to suggest things when I can't add a lot of effort to see them put into action and I'm afraid that is the case now. Because of job and rebuilding our house constraints, I haven't even been on the water since last July. I hope to change that soon. Peter, I would be glad if you (or anyone else) could pick up this idea and develope it some more. Bill Leonhardt *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 06:33 PM 4/12/2002 +1000, PeterO wrote: >Finding a way to record who is available for paddles is a great idea. The >tier system sounds excellent. I'm a bit worried about putting it on the Web >which is available to the whole world and personally would prefer to >restrict my invitation to Paddlewisers. I like the way the bicycle warm showers list is structured. http://www.rogergravel.com/wsl/ You have to be a member of the list to get a copy of the list. The warm showers site states that they have been thinking of posting the information to the web but need to find a secure way of posting it. This could be done as a password protected section of a website where the list maintainer periodically changes the password, so if you want a current list of what's available you need to contact the list maintainer. I, for one, dislike the idea of posting the info in a publicly accessable place. I would expect some who would be willing to host might currently be unwilling to be listed on the whos who. It doesn't make sense to me for a lurker to bother getting a who's who listing, I'm sure it makes sense to those that did get a listing ;-) >Also I very much like Ralph's suggestion of adding a byline address and >location to ones email posts but that excludes lurkers from offering and >they are an important group within Paddlewise. My guess is lurkers outnumber contributors by about 6 to 1. That's a whole lot of potential people/places to visit that are invisible. >If noone else is available I'ld be happy to organise whatever >Paddlewisers and our List Manager agree on. On the other hand Bill if you >are willing to take it on I've benefited from your advice in the past and >would very much support you. Oooo, volunteers. That's what I've been waiting for.... kirk *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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