I wear a diving watch for all outdoor purposes. When I come down from a hike at altitude (anything above 8,000 ft), a small amount of condensation accumulates under the glass. It eventually disperses (perhaps after weeks), with no apparent effect on accuracy. Does anyone have a recommendation for a good watch that does not do this? Being able to submerge in shallow water 20 - 30 ft) is essential. What I'm really looking for in addition is the ability to withstand the altitude change (say, up to 15,000) without that condensation. Thanks. P.S. The cost of the watch should be less than the cost of my last kayak. Tom Joyce ------------------------------------------ The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any further disclosure or use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have received this e-mail message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[Moderator's Note: Content unaltered. Excessive quoting (i.e. headers/footers/sig lines/extraneous text from previous posts, etc.) have been removed. Please edit quoted material in addition to removing header/trailers when replying to posts.] I have been using a LUMINOX Navy Seals watch for the last five years with no problem. I have it in the water all the time. It has a rotating bezel. It has tritium gas in the hour hand, minute hand, second hand, and for each hour. The tritium gas glows in the dark without having to charge it up like the more traditional painted watch markings. This makes it real nice for paddling at night. They make a number of different models. Mine cost either $200 or $300. Cannot remember which. Hope this helps. Jan Mason Joyce, Thomas F. wrote: > I wear a diving watch for all outdoor purposes. When I come down from a hike at altitude (anything above 8,000 ft), a small amount of condensation accumulates under the glass. It eventually disperses (perhaps after weeks), with no apparent effect on accuracy. Does anyone have a recommendation for a good watch that does not do this? Being able to submerge in shallow water 20 - 30 ft) is essential. What I'm really looking for in addition is the ability to withstand the altitude change (say, up to 15,000) without that condensation. > > P.S. The cost of the watch should be less than the cost of my last kayak. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Mine quit working after two yrs. Campmor or Sierra Outpost has them on clearance. Cant remember which. I really liked that watch. Bummer. Jim et al ----- Original Message ----- From: "td376" <td376_at_mail.anonymizer.com> > I have been using a LUMINOX Navy Seals watch for the last five years > with no problem. I have it in the water all the time. It has a > rotating bezel. It has tritium gas in the hour hand, minute hand, > second hand, and for each hour. The tritium gas glows in the dark > without having to charge it up like the more traditional painted watch > markings. This makes it real nice for paddling at night. They make a > number of different models. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[Moderator's Note: Content unaltered. Excessive quoting (i.e. headers/footers/sig lines/extraneous text from previous posts, etc.) have been removed. Please edit quoted material in addition to removing header/trailers when replying to posts.] I use a Suunto X6. The altimeter/barometer functions are very accurate, can be locked to avoid drift, allow log tracking, and can be set to alarm when rise or drop exceeds set interval amount. There have been some reports that earlier versions of this watch had display glitches, and that battery replacement has caused a few units to lock and require returning. Suunto handles these via their Carlsbad, CA facility, though many retailers (EMS, REI, others, will usually replace the units under warranty with new...your mileage may vary). The less expensive Vector model has the same accuracy, though the ease of operation, intuitive display, etc. of the X6 make it worth the money. If you're into the gear geek thing, you can download logs from the watch to PC (via supplied cable and software/Macs can use a usb to serial adapter and Virtual PC), adjust watch settings and prefs all at once, and link to Suunto's website to other users... Mostly, I find the X6 reliable, well thought out, and unfailingly accurate; a recent issue of Backpacker magazine reviewed and rated an array of these watches...and many were not as accurate or as handy as one might hope or assume. The Suunto watch reviewed was not the X6, but the Altimeter functions are the same. (no commercial affiliation with Suunto or retailers of this product). -Will On Friday, May 9, 2003, at 10:53 AM, Joyce, Thomas F. wrote: > I wear a diving watch for all outdoor purposes. When I come down from > a hike at altitude (anything above 8,000 ft), a small amount of > condensation accumulates under the glass. It eventually disperses > (perhaps after weeks), with no apparent effect on accuracy. Does > anyone have a recommendation for a good watch that does not do this? > Being able to submerge in shallow water 20 - 30 ft) is essential. > What I'm really looking for in addition is the ability to withstand > the altitude change (say, up to 15,000) without that condensation. > > Thanks. > > P.S. The cost of the watch should be less than the cost of my last > kayak. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi all, > > For paddling it's hard to find better bang-for-the-buck value than Timex. > Regular Timex Ironman from superstore for $ 20-30 with rating 100m protects > from a short-time shallow immersion - from my experience. I am not sure how > it will work for divers, though. AFAIK, the depth ratings as used by the watch industry are greatly exaggerated. 50m is barely suitable to get wet at all, 100m will stand an average swim, and only 200m+ are suitable for a moderate dive. Kees who wears a Casio Geotrail model rated at 100m when paddling. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Sat, 10 May 2003, Kees van der Meij wrote: > Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 07:50:53 +0200 > From: Kees van der Meij <keesvdm_at_xs4all.nl> > To: PW <paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net> > Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Watches > > Hi all, > > AFAIK, the depth ratings as used by the watch industry are greatly > exaggerated. 50m is barely suitable to get wet at all, 100m will stand an > average swim, and only 200m+ are suitable for a moderate dive. > You won't have any problems if you respect these ratings. But depending on the manufacturer, a 100m watch may well do for a shallow dive ... Water resistance standards are applied unequally by the manufacturers. And they guarantee water resistance for just one year, afterwards the rubber joints should be changed! Of course in real life the watches remain water resistant for two to three years, depending on the use. Watch shops offer tests of water resistance (at least here in Germany). Such a test may spare you unpleasant surprises ... Reinhold Weber *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
alex wrote: > For paddling it's hard to find better bang-for-the-buck value than > Timex. Regular Timex Ironman from superstore for $ 20-30 with rating > 100m protects from a short-time shallow immersion - from my > experience. I am not sure how it will work for divers, though. I've taken a Timex Ironman rated at 200m to 40m on a dive (that's the maximum sport diving depth). It didn't leak, but it didn't work either. Specifically, if you get below something like 25m, the water pressure locks down the buttons and the timers and stuff cease to function. Only the clock part works. Divers need dive watches. For kayaking, the Timex is fine. These fading eyes should switch to an analog face, though - much easier to read especially in low light as others have noted. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
FWIW, I've been wearing Timex Ironman watches for paddling and daily use for 5 years or more. I've had to replace them from time to time (I'm rough on things), but never because of immersion problems. Incidentally, they keep excellent time. Bob V *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
G'day, I have a "Swatch" watches at Aus$60 Aprox(US$30). It claims to be water resistant and has the battery case exposed at the back for easy removal, while everything else is well sealed. Its stood up to a fair bit of water immersion and general bashing around very well. All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
--- Evan Dallas <Evan_Dallas_at_notes.ntrs.com> wrote: I > generally get two years > or more per $10 watch, which works out to something > like 40 cents per month > -- not bad! Neither my husband nor I have had a watch last more than about 1 year before the case breaks along the section where the pin goes to hold the band. Sometimes the watch just falls off into the water and the owner realizes it when checking the time. A few times the watch has fallen into a bag or on the floor and we can use it as a "pocket watch". Last year my husband paid more money for a watch with a metal case (Timex, waterproof). We'll learn if that makes a difference. We don't know of anyone else who has had such bad luck. What has been the experience of paddlewisers? No one has mentioned this problem. I'd love to get 2 years out of a watch. Caroline __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Caroline wrote:- >What has been the experience of paddlewisers? >No one has mentioned this problem. I'd love >to get 2 years out of a watch. G'day Caroline, I've been wearing a cheap digital watch with a moulded plastic strap for three years - no sign of wearing out and a trip doesn't go by without it being totally submerged. Recently changed it for a Swatch watch which has a similar moulded strap and is 'non digital' with hour and minute hands. I'ld like to claim this is so it can be used as a compass, but actually its because age and eyesight are catching up!!:~) All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[Moderator's Note: Content unaltered. Excessive quoting (i.e. headers/footers/sig lines/extraneous text from previous posts, etc.) have been removed. Please edit quoted material in addition to removing header/trailers when replying to posts.] There's been alot of info about watches lately, so, I would like to share a website with all of you. I have ordered from this company and will again in the future. If you need a watch this company probably has it and at discounted prices! (no affiliation) http://www.wristwatch.com/ I myself have worn a Casio watch for the last 20 to 25 years. I 've owned a GShock and 2 multi sensor watches. I gave the Gshock to a friend after wearing it about 7 to 8 years, I replaced the battery and band once. I purchased a Casio 2 sensor watch with temp,altimeter and barometer. I have purchased one battery and one strap for that also. The original battery lasted about 5 or 6 years. 2 years ago I was given a Casio 3 sensor watch, temp,altimeter,barometer and compass.( I know there's four but they call it a Triple sensor) The barometer I use all the time which is useful in watching the weather. These watches are water resistant to 100 meters. I have worn them diving,swimming/snorkeling and paddling. I have never seen one leak or condensate under the crystal. I have never broken a pin but I have replaced the strap.(They sell watch bands also) All have ripped just above the hole where the band is clasped. This maybe caused because I keep my band tight on my wrist. They are not $10.00 watches though, the link below is similar to the watch I have now, priced at $117.00. http://www.wristwatch.com/depot.asp,,sku,,cas-prt40c1v,,idx,,2467,,slt,,37753.6719560185 Hopefully, I have offered some worthwhile info. Happy paddling Bill *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Liam wrote: > When replacing a battery in my watch(Casio) I put vasoline on the > oring > before remounting the back. I have never seen condensation form > under the > crystral after doing so. Vasoline, being a petroleum product, can cause an O-ring to degrade rather quickly. You'd have to make sure the O-ring is resistant to petroleum products. There are silicone and nitrile O-rings, but I rather doubt you'd find them in a watch. It's easier and better to use a silicone grease designed for the job. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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