Many years ago I was sailing with Sun Oil's tanker fleet on the east coast and we had to go in to deliver asphalt to a site in New Jersey. The route took us around Staten Island and into the waterway between the island and the New Jersey shore (Arthur Kill). I wasn't on watch at the time and I don't remember were we ended up, but I do remember seeing abandoned boats, ships, ferries, tugboats, tankers, floating drydocks, and more at several places along the way. More abandoned vessels than I ever had seen anywhere else before. This url, http://www.opacity.us/site55_staten_island_boat_graveyard.htm#gallery87, has some interesting photographs of the derelicts; all done in an artful style. Seems like this might be an interesting place to paddle as long as you stay well out of the way of the commercial traffic. Everything from pushboats and tugs with their tows to tankers and container ships moves through this extremely narrow waterway. If you paddle here make sure you listen for the danger signal (five or more blasts on a ship's horn or whistle) and avoid at all costs getting in front of any traffic. USCG Navigation Rules require that we give practically everyone else room to maneuver. Photographs would be neat if you do paddle this area. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Links to pics by photographer Shaun O'Boyle of the Staten Island boat graveyard: http://oboylephoto.com/boatyard/by2.htm http://oboylephoto.com/boatyard/2005/index.htm *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Every bit as haunting as I remember them from the deck of a 1950s tanker that I'm sure has long since gone to its own boneyard. There is something about a broken boat that speaks to me. I have a tendency to get carried away trying to imagine the lives of the people who manned these vessels; it was a far different marchant marine 50 or 60 years ago... but at least we had a merchant marine (at least the USA did) then. Thanks for the links. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Richard Culpeper <culpeper_at_tbaytel.net>wrote: > Links to pics by photographer Shaun O'Boyle of the Staten Island boat > graveyard: > > http://oboylephoto.com/boatyard/by2.htm > http://oboylephoto.com/boatyard/2005/index.htm *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Go to google maps and switch to sat. photos. You can follow around Staten I. and see the large number of wrecks, hulks and derelicts. GaryJ Craig Jungers wrote: > Many years ago I was sailing with Sun Oil's tanker fleet on the east coast > and we had to go in to deliver asphalt to a site in New Jersey. The route > took us around Staten Island and into the waterway between the island and > the New Jersey shore (Arthur Kill). I wasn't on watch at the time and I > don't remember were we ended up, but I do remember seeing abandoned boats, > ships, ferries, tugboats, tankers, floating drydocks, and more at several > places along the way. More abandoned vessels than I ever had seen anywhere > else before. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Dear Craig and all, A very different but still very fascinating view of this ship & boat graveyard can be seen from space on Google Earth: 40-33-21N 74-12-59 W GE/Boat Graveyard geeks also may appreciate: 21-23-49N 72-11-10 E and 69-10-38N 33-28-28 E Harvey --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com> wrote: > From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com> > Subject: [Paddlewise] Boat Graveyard at Staten Islandj > To: "Paddlewise" <paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net> > Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 12:02 PM > Many years ago I was sailing with Sun Oil's tanker fleet on the east coast > and we had to go in to deliver asphalt to a site in New Jersey. The route > took us around Staten Island and into the waterway between the island and > the New Jersey shore (Arthur Kill). I wasn't on watch at the time and I > don't remember were we ended up, but I do remember seeing abandoned boats, > ships, ferries, tugboats, tankers, floating drydocks, and more at several > places along the way. More abandoned vessels than I ever had seen anywhere else before. > > This url, > http://www.opacity.us/site55_staten_island_boat_graveyard.htm#gallery87 has > some interesting photographs of the derelicts; all done in an artful style. > Seems like this might be an interesting place to paddle as long as you stay > well out of the way of the commercial traffic. Everything from pushboats and > tugs with their tows to tankers and container ships moves through this > extremely narrow waterway. If you paddle here make sure you listen for the > danger signal (five or more blasts on a ship's horn or whistle) and avoid at > all costs getting in front of any traffic. USCG Navigation Rules require > that we give practically everyone else room to maneuver. > > Photographs would be neat if you do paddle this area. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Sounds like you pulled that from the visible shipwrecks collection on Google Earth Greg Dunlap Santa Rosa, CA 38.478156 N 122.754598 W 157 feet above sea level blackey_at_sonic.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net]On Behalf Of Harvey Golden Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:09 PM To: paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Boat Graveyard at Staten Islandj Dear Craig and all, A very different but still very fascinating view of this ship & boat graveyard can be seen from space on Google Earth: 40-33-21N 74-12-59 W GE/Boat Graveyard geeks also may appreciate: 21-23-49N 72-11-10 E and 69-10-38N 33-28-28 E Harvey --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com> wrote: > From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com> > Subject: [Paddlewise] Boat Graveyard at Staten Islandj > To: "Paddlewise" <paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net> > Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 12:02 PM > Many years ago I was sailing with Sun Oil's tanker fleet on the east coast > and we had to go in to deliver asphalt to a site in New Jersey. The route > took us around Staten Island and into the waterway between the island and > the New Jersey shore (Arthur Kill). I wasn't on watch at the time and I > don't remember were we ended up, but I do remember seeing abandoned boats, > ships, ferries, tugboats, tankers, floating drydocks, and more at several > places along the way. More abandoned vessels than I ever had seen anywhere else before. > > This url, > http://www.opacity.us/site55_staten_island_boat_graveyard.htm#gallery87 has > some interesting photographs of the derelicts; all done in an artful style. > Seems like this might be an interesting place to paddle as long as you stay > well out of the way of the commercial traffic. Everything from pushboats and > tugs with their tows to tankers and container ships moves through this > extremely narrow waterway. If you paddle here make sure you listen for the > danger signal (five or more blasts on a ship's horn or whistle) and avoid at > all costs getting in front of any traffic. USCG Navigation Rules require > that we give practically everyone else room to maneuver. > > Photographs would be neat if you do paddle this area. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Most of the wreckage I see on the coast is way gone: just twisted sheets of steel or slabs of splintered plywood ... the odd hatch cover here and there. Now and then there will be something recognizable as boatlike. I always wonder if lives were lost, and almost never know for sure. Some wreckage has persisted on rocky shores, steel mostly, cast up above the usual high water mark, for years. It changes shape and oxidizes, returning to its former state, as do the remains of those lost. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Dave Kruger wrote: > Most of the wreckage I see on the coast is way gone: just twisted > sheets of steel or slabs of splintered plywood ... the odd hatch cover > here and there. Now and then there will be something recognizable as > boatlike. Some years back when we kayaked around small islands in the Sea of Cortez off Bahia de los Angeles, on one day the ocean surface was smooth as glass and we were able to see a boat wreck (masts, etc). I understand there are quite a few out there. Another time some years ago I was paddling at night with a couple of club members from the Austin Paddling club in Espiritu Santo Bay and we came across an airplane wing sticking up out of the water. We were fairly close to shore. I understand there are quite a few airplane wrecks off the coast of Texas (in addition to numerous shipwrecks). Interesting video of scuba divers visiting one shipwreck 20 miles off South Padre Island here http://www.scubadivingtube.com/play.php?vid=535 Jackie *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Harvey Golden <harveydgolden_at_yahoo.com>wrote: > Dear Craig and all, > A very different but still very fascinating view of this ship & boat > graveyard can be seen from space on Google Earth: > 40-33-21N 74-12-59 W > > GE/Boat Graveyard geeks also may appreciate: > 21-23-49N 72-11-10 E and 69-10-38N 33-28-28 E > Harvey > > All very interesting Harvey. I saw a Nat. Geo. special about the ship breakers in India; so that's where it is. Pretty impressive sight. I wonder what was going through the minds of the ships' crews as they drove them at full speed onto that beach. It goes against every instinct, of course. And I expect that the shoreline around northern Russia is pretty familiar ground to some analysts around the world (but most especially near Washington D.C.). All of this is great fodder for a fall day. Craig *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
There is a visceral reaction in me when I see a shipwreck. These pictures really brought it out. I would guess that for most of us who float above the waves in our boats, some sort of relationship with our vessel develops. And I imagine that it is the same for other mariners. So seeing a wreck brings a sadness of nostalgia for the good service the boat performed, the good times or even the scary times had by the people who used the boat, the adventures, the work accomplished, the getting safely to home no matter what happened out there. Several years ago I saw a wreck in Greenland whose home port was Thorhaven, the capital of the Faroe Islands. It brought to mind what that boat had been through to end up there. Much like an old, abandoned house or even a cemetery, a wrecked boat is a reminder of the end that everything faces, no matter how vital or steadfast it was in its prime. It's fun to imagine what the people who were on those really old boats looked like. What they wore, what language they spoke, what their purpose was in getting on board. Thanks for bringing to mind such interesting thoughts and memories Craig! Jim Tibensky *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
James wrote: >Much like an old, abandoned house or even a cemetery, a wrecked boat is >a reminder of the end that everything faces, no matter how vital or >steadfast it was in its prime. > > Or maybe it's a new beginning..... http://www.nps.gov/nr//travel/flshipwrecks/whypreserve.htm Shipwreck preservation is equally important as a viable component in marine ecology. Once a shipwreck becomes stable it becomes part of its environment. Marine life envelop these remains as a foundation and frame for survival, helping to sustain the marine ecosystem. Coral creates beautiful reefs that provide a habitat for an abundance of marine life that depends upon the resources and protection that a reef environment provides. Fish, sponges, clams, anemones, octopi, squid, crabs and lobsters interact and thrive among these lost ships. Human divers relish the opportunity to visit these treasures and experience this underwater kaleidoscope of life and history. Jackie *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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