-----Original Message----- From: rww [mailto:rww_at_neosoft.com] Sent: Thursday, October 08, 1998 11:02 PM To: paddlewise Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Rest of the winter? >> > Rudders, Paddles feathered and non, long and short, now bulkheads. This is > early October and we have used up most of our classics repertoire of sacred > cows. What will we cackle and preen about for the rest of the winter? How bout all the fun us folks in Texas and Florida get to have while yall are all shivering and hiding from the snow? And Red Snapper season will open back up sometime in January I think... I've been waiting for fall/winter to get here for close to 4 months. Richard Walker Houston, TX >> ************************************************************************** * What do you mean, hiding from the snow? Up here in Minnesota we think winter is a great time to go camping -- that is, when it isn't too warm. Last winter my wife and I cancelled a February trip to the Boundary Waters because it thawed and got sloppy, but we plan to try again this winter. Granted, not all Minnesotans enjoy it, but snow camping does seem to appeal to a large number of sea kayakers here. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
>At 10:41 PM 10/8/98 EDT, Tomckayak_at_aol.com wrote: >>Rudders, Paddles feathered and non, long and short, now bulkheads. This is >>early October and we have used up most of our classics repertoire of sacred >>cows. What will we cackle and preen about for the rest of the winter? Do I detect a deep seated compulsion to discuss this issue again, you know, like picking at a scab? :-) Cheers, John Winters Redwing Designs Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft http://home.ican.net/~735769/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Reliable roomer has it that the Right Honorable-John Winters will be extremely busy this winter mining his quarry of Canadian Ballast Rocks in order to fulfil purchase agreements made by the NewZeland kayakers association on behalf of their Government. This is agreement was necessary in order to avert continental drift caused by their porous pumice rock which makes forms the substrate of their continent (or is it Island)? Since Nafta agreements with the State of South Dakota are currently being abrogated by the Americans for their lack of compliance with said Nafta agreements, Canada will be invoking a full scale sell off of Canadian Ballast Rocks with expected trade advantage over the USA gaining dominant foothold in the Southern Pacific Hemisphere of Oceania. Yes folks this will mean a full scale trade war with Canada coming out on top! Ultimately the US can take full credit for causing this action as it will contribute to stabilization of the commodity markets globally. On a high note, the enormous profits anticipated will be donated by Mr. Winters to the International Monetary Fund to help bailout the Russian economy, since they don't have a cluse how to care for themselves. Not even Bill Gates can compete with such profits. As a further bonus, US taxpayers will be spared the burden of another financial bailout and their congress will be enabled to concentrate on both white water and the White House affairs at the expense of their trusted Nafta agreement. Ross Perot will be indeed delighted and proven that he was right all along. The world owes Mr. Winters a debt of gratitude for his discovery of Great Canadian Ballast Rocks. Roomer also has it that he will be given the Governor General of Canada award as a great Canadian and Hero of the Nation dubbing him with Mel Gibson's title of Homo Indomitus (BraveHeart)! Well there you have it! The best is yet to come this winter for all who subscribe to Paddlewise. Be sure to tell your friends to subsribe as it is the best kayak discussion group on the planet all kidding aside. There will be plenty of topics to discuss and stories to tell inspite of a crucial embargo on sponsons as discussion material (hopefully). Oh, I almost forgot! Remember to call an investment broker. Buying stock in Canadian Ballast Rocks is going to make a lot of people rich. This might be bigger than the Great Alaskan Gold rush! Cheers, Philip Wylie "Today its snowing and Winters will be with us until Spring" No pun intended, just accidental %^). ====================================================================== John Winters wrote: > > >At 10:41 PM 10/8/98 EDT, Tomckayak_at_aol.com wrote: > >>Rudders, Paddles feathered and non, long and short, now bulkheads. This > is > >>early October and we have used up most of our classics repertoire of > sacred > >>cows. What will we cackle and preen about for the rest of the winter? > > Do I detect a deep seated compulsion to discuss this issue again, you know, > like picking at a scab? :-) > > Cheers, > John Winters > Redwing Designs > Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft > http://home.ican.net/~735769/ > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Breaking into the South Dakota market was very difficult. Wall Drug, which dominates the state's economy, and which carries a large selection of rocks and stones, took a patriotic stance. They seem to have a history of circling the wagons down that way. The ironic part of this is that about the only item they don't retail is kayaks, so who knows why they made such a fuss over Official Canadian Ballast Rocks (TM). Richard Culpeper www.geocities.com/~culpeper Philip Wylie wrote: --snip-- > Since Nafta agreements with the State of South Dakota are currently being abrogated by the Americans > for their lack of compliance with said Nafta agreements, Canada will be invoking a full scale sell > off of Canadian Ballast Rocks with expected trade advantage over the USA gaining dominant foothold > in the Southern Pacific Hemisphere of Oceania. Yes folks this will mean a full scale trade war with > Canada > coming out on top! --snip-- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I suppose we could discuss the technical aspects of flying down ski hills in sea kayaks. We could even get into the glass v tupperware debate, or argue over how to calculate the size of moguls. OK, here goes... "I've screamed down ski hills in ww kayaks, and would be curious to hear of any who have survived ski hills in sea kayaks." ...Then again, maybe this topic is just too stupid. Please forget that I mentioned it. To embarrassed to sign my name, www.geocities.com/~culpeper ---------- > From: Tomckayak_at_aol.com > Rudders, Paddles feathered and non, long and short, now bulkheads. This is > early October and we have used up most of our classics repertoire of sacred > cows. What will we cackle and preen about for the rest of the winter? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Paddlewise has had a number of hearty discussions on the merits of feathered paddles. I still have a few questions, such as: what kind of feathers are best, how do you stick them on, and has anyone tried being a feathered paddler? Personally, I'm chicken. Brad > From: Tomckayak_at_aol.com > Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 22:41:56 EDT > To: timothy.g.mattson_at_intel.com > Cc: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subject: [Paddlewise] Rest of the winter? > Rudders, Paddles feathered and non, long and short, now bulkheads. This is > early October and we have used up most of our classics repertoire of sacred > cows. What will we cackle and preen about for the rest of the winter? > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** > ********************************************************************** Bradford R. Crain E-mail: brad_at_mth.pdx.edu Dept. of Mathematics Phone: (503) 725-3127 Portland State Univ. FAX: (503) 725-3661 P.O. Box 751 Portland, Or. 97207 ********************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> Paddlewise has had a number of hearty discussions on the >merits of feathered paddles. I still have a few questions, such as: >what kind of feathers are best, how do you stick them on, duck tape *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Now that's a discussion we could have all winter long - the joys of duck tape! Isn't it the ultimate boat building tool? - Scott Jim Champoux wrote: > > > Paddlewise has had a number of hearty discussions on the > >merits of feathered paddles. I still have a few questions, such as: > >what kind of feathers are best, how do you stick them on, > > duck tape > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Chuck Holst wrote: > > What do you mean, hiding from the snow? Up here in Minnesota we think > winter is a great time to go camping -- that is, when it isn't too warm. > Last winter my wife and I cancelled a February trip to the Boundary Waters > because it thawed and got sloppy, but we plan to try again this winter. > Go for it! I joined Mike Nowacki & his friend John Shannon for a fantastic week of snowshoeing & sleeping under the stars in Algonquin Provincial Park in February. Yes, it did get a little sloppy for the last bit. I hate those warm mushy winters. -- Lloyd Bowles The Mad Canoeist "Keep the open side up!" http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/clearstreets/358/index.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 11:03 PM 10/8/98 -0500, Richard Walker wrote: > >How bout all the fun us folks in Texas and Florida get to have while >yall are all shivering and hiding from the snow? And Red Snapper >season will open back up sometime in January I think... I've been >waiting for fall/winter to get here for close to 4 months. > Nope. That's not how it is here in the north. We outdoors-people also look forward to the winter. We get out the snowshoes, skates, skis, winter climbing gear, and sometimes slide in a kayak down the snow-covered hills. I think all that compares pretty favorably to Red Snapper season. In addition the summer weather is often low-humidity and 80 degrees F. Why would anyone want to live in Texas or Florida? :) Bill Ridlon Southern Maine Sea Kayaking Network *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Last Wednesday I was witnessing northern lights on the NW sky, and at the very same time a few days " old" moon (the full moon was on Monday) rising on the NE sky... I was on a short overnight trip of 30 miles to my favourite island, with my brand new sleeping-bag. The night was black and cold, but not too cold: about -1 degrees centigrades (40F?). After 40 minutes of this light-show the northern lights vanished because of the hard light of the rising moon -sigh- 8-) My SO got enormously jealous... THE WINTER IS NOT HERE - at least not until the sea freezes.. Optimistic, as always, Ari (stil skinny-dipping, if I get sauna directly afterwards!) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
These are the ravings of a sick man! > We outdoors-people also look > forward to the winter. We get out the snowshoes, skates, skis, winter > climbing gear, and sometimes slide in a kayak down the > snow-covered hills. > I think all that compares pretty favorably to Red Snapper season. Bob Denton (ex New Englander and former winter camper) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> These are the ravings of a sick man! > > > hills. I think all that compares pretty favorably to Red Snapper season. Obviously a person who's never had fresh Red Snapper. Personally, when January comes along, I'm bringing a cooler with wasabi, rice and soy sauce, and I'm gonna have Snapper sashimi right on the beach! Richard Walker Houston, TX *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
R. Walker wrote: > Obviously a person who's never had fresh Red Snapper. Personally, > when January comes along, I'm bringing a cooler with wasabi, rice > and soy sauce, and I'm gonna have Snapper sashimi right on the > beach! > > Richard Walker > Houston, TX Mmmmmm, yum! Some yashi nori and La Yu could go along with that quite nicely, too. Ah yes, and a clear starry night and the smell of the sea. It doesn't get much better than that! Alice *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Excellent choice but not as good as uni at 60 fsw! > Obviously a person who's never had fresh Red Snapper. Personally, > when January comes along, I'm bringing a cooler with wasabi, rice > and soy sauce, and I'm gonna have Snapper sashimi right on the > beach! > > > Richard Walker > Houston, TX > ************************************************************** > ************* > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > ************************************************************** > ************* > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
All this trade war stuff doesn't scare me. In the end I know kayakers will choose quality over quantity and low prices. Genuine Canadian Ballast Rocks (TM) are known world wide as the best you can buy and the stability they provide exceeds all government standards. A few people might buy cheap imitations and from people like Wal-Mart but who will service them when they go bad? Those smiling faces at Wal-Mart only go so far. The Canadian Ballast Rock Company was built on service and quality. We will not sacrifice either just to increase our volume. Cheers, John Winters Redwing Designs Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft http://home.ican.net/~735769/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
John Winters wrote: > > The Canadian Ballast Rock Company was built on service and > quality. We will not sacrifice either just to increase our volume. > Volume? Who needs volume? I thought the point of Ballast Rocks was density. Steve (or is it me?) -- Test Scoring & Reporting Services Sometimes, you never can University of Georgia always tell what you Athens, GA 30602-5593 least expect the most. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
John Winters wrote: > > Genuine Canadian Ballast Rocks (TM) are known world wide as the best you > can buy and the stability they provide exceeds all government standards. Genuine Canadian Ballast Rocks also provide the best dive speed. Just swamp the boat & see how quickly it reaches periscope depth - or the lake bottom. Warning - resurfacing may be a tad tricky. :-) -- Lloyd Bowles The Mad Canoeist "Keep the open side up!" http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/clearstreets/358/index.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 8:17 AM -0400 10/12/98, John Winters wrote: >A few people might buy cheap imitations and from people like Wal-Mart but >who will service them when they go bad? Those smiling faces at Wal-Mart >only go so far. The Canadian Ballast Rock Company was built on service and >quality. We will not sacrifice either just to increase our volume. Speaking of service, how often should ballast rocks be brought in for maintanence? I have noticed some rocks looking pretty beat-up after only a century or two in the water. Can you suggest anything to reduce this problem? I know an occasional roll will eliminate the moss, but this can be hard to do with the rocks installed. Do you have any other suggestions? Nick Schade Guillemot Kayaks c/o Newfound Woodworks, 67 Danforth Brook Rd, Bristol, NH 03222 (603) 744-6167 Schade_at_guillemot-kayaks.com http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/ >>>>"It's not just Art, It's a Craft!"<<<< *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 98-10-12 08:33:39 EDT, 735769_at_ican.net writes: << Genuine Canadian Ballast Rocks (TM) are known world wide as the best you can buy and the stability they provide exceeds all government standards. >> Just purchased a genuine Canadian Aquabound carbon fiber --- 'scuse <me>, "carbonfibre" --- Expedition take-apart paddle and was dismayed to find that it did not have any Canadian Pebbles (TM) for lateral trim! Is there something you can do about this, John? Jack *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Jack wrote; > Genuine Canadian Ballast Rocks (TM) are known world wide as the best you > can buy and the stability they provide exceeds all government standards. >> > >Just purchased a genuine Canadian Aquabound carbon fiber --- 'scuse <me>, >"carbonfibre" --- Expedition take-apart paddle and was dismayed to find that >it did not have any Canadian Pebbles (TM) for lateral trim! Is there >something you can do about this, John? Was it made by a Quebec based company? The Quebec government has stopped all transport of English rocks and pebbles across their border. Negotiations are continuing and we hope to solve the problem soon. If all else fails we will provide Quebec Ballast Pebbles (TM). They don't work as well or as often but what can one do. Cheers, John Winters Redwing Designs Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft http://home.ican.net/~735769/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 98-10-12 12:46:34 EDT, 735769_at_ican.net writes: << Was [your Aquabound Expedition paddle] made by a Quebec based company? The Quebec government has stopped all transport of English rocks and pebbles across their border. Negotiations are continuing and we hope to solve the problem soon. If all else fails we will provide Quebec Ballast Pebbles (TM). They don't work as well or as often but what can one do. >> No, these were not supposed to be francophrocks. The paddle was made in <British> Columbia! Gotta be anglophrocks! They rattle around in the paddle shaft much more actively and predictably than those francophrocks. Spent a good deal of time in 'Ull while visiting Ottawa regularly in a former life. Would never want to pick up <anything> there, especially pebbles. Jack *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 07:06 PM 10/12/98 -0500, Richard Walker (and others) wrote: >> These are the ravings of a sick man! >> >> > hills. I think all that compares pretty favorably to Red Snapper season. > >Obviously a person who's never had fresh Red Snapper. Personally, >when January comes along, I'm bringing a cooler with wasabi, rice >and soy sauce, and I'm gonna have Snapper sashimi right on the >beach! > But... can fresh Red Snapper measure up to fresh Maine Lobster? Bill Ridlon Southern Maine Sea Kayaking Network *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Jack wrote; >No, these were not supposed to be francophrocks. The paddle was made in ><British> Columbia! Gotta be anglophrocks! They rattle around in the paddle >shaft much more actively and predictably than those francophrocks. Spent a >good deal of time in 'Ull while visiting Ottawa regularly in a former life. >Would never want to pick up <anything> there, especially pebbles. Sounds like a warranty problem to me. This is one reason why I prefer dealing direct. Installation is so important and I have full confidence in out trained factory technicians. Nick wrote; >Speaking of service, how often should ballast rocks be brought in for >maintanence? I have noticed some rocks looking pretty beat-up after only a >century or two in the water. Can you suggest anything to reduce this >problem? I know an occasional roll will eliminate the moss, but this can be >hard to do with the rocks installed. Do you have any other suggestions? > We consider the rough finish one of character. Granted, some people prefer the smoother Gem Stone finish and we are considering adding it as an option. I think if people would give moss a chance they would come to like it and would quit capsizing to clean it off. many experienced paddlers consider the moss emergency rations which is consistent with the multi purpose nature of Genuine Canadian Ballast Rocks (TM). Cheers, John Winters Redwing Designs Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft http://home.ican.net/~735769/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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