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From: <Gypsykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 18:15:18 EST
Would it be too much to ask to have it somewhere where the water is warm?

Sandy Kramer
Miami
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From: Ricci, Gail <gricci_at_ida.org>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 14:05:31 -0500
In a message dated 02/08/2000 1:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
Gypsykayak_at_aol.com writes:

<< GREAT idea, Joan.   Somewhere in the middle of the country that has a
very 
popular airport because those are the ones that have discounts.  In fact, to

contradict myself, it might be just as cheap for me to fly to the west coast

on a special deal than somewhere closer.  

I suppose we could alternate - west coast one year - east coast the next.  

I put a new subject line.  The mind is boggling.  We can have loads of fun 
deciding who (will coordinate), where, and when.  I'm real cheap when it 
comes to hotels, so I'd like a place with a campground.  Perhaps tie it in 
with an outfitters demo day.>>

I agree with Sandy.  Washington DC would be an ideal location.  There are
several campgrounds along the Potomac River not far from DC.  Maybe one or
more of the local outfitters would be interested in participating.

<< I've been trying to convince Ralph Diaz to organize a Folding Kayak 
convention.  It would be neat if we could do that and then we would get to 
try different types of folding yaks.>>

Great idea!  Count us in.

<< Another idea might be to arrange for it to coincide with a "freebie"
holiday 
- ie Memorial Day in May or Columbus Day in October (but I guess a lot of 
people don't get Columbus Day off - it's great to be a government worker!)>>

Sounds good too!


Gail & Bob Ricci
Feathercraft Klondike (Tandem)
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From: Chuck Holst <CHUCK_at_multitech.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:19:15 -0600
>>
I guess great minds think alike.  Carry that over to other types of minds as
far
as you like! :-)  The previous posts got me to thinking about meeting up
with
other PaddleWisers at either the Kittery Trading Post Paddle Sports Show
2000
being held 31 March until 2 April or the LL Bean Symposium from 14 July
through
16 July.  
>>

Then there is the Great Lakes Sea Kayak Symposium the weekend after the LL
Bean Symposium for the Upper Midwesterners...

Chuck Holst
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From: <Gypsykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:38:36 EST
In a message dated 02/08/2000 2:07:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
mnoyes_at_gsinet.net writes:

<< Of course we will need a way to identify each other. >>

OK, all you artists out there.  How about a "logo" designing competition?  I 
believe it was Karen Hancock who once suggested yellow circles or something.

Perhaps something like a yellow smiley face but with owl eyes  (using the 
"wise" in Paddlewise)?  Or some crossed paddles somewhere.  Not too many 
colors so that it is not too expensive to reproduce.  Our Keys Paradise 
Paddlers group has a great multi-colored logo in T-shirts, tank tops and 
membership cards.  I can always ask who did the design.  

We could have buttons with space to write our names, and perhaps could be 
used as luggage tags (so we can spot each other at airports and other 
venues), and, of course, T-shirts.
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From: Joe Pylka <pylka_at_castle.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:05:18 -0500
>  The previous posts got me to thinking about meeting up with
>other PaddleWisers at either the Kittery Trading Post Paddle Sports Show
>2000 >being held 31 March until 2 April or the LL Bean Symposium from 14
July
>through >16 July.
>Then there is the Great Lakes Sea Kayak Symposium the weekend after the LL
>Bean Symposium for the Upper Midwesterners...
>
    --And of course the original PaddleSport Show in NJ the same weekend as
the Kittery....  less than an hour from NYC.


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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 22:30:16 -0800
Joe Pylka wrote:
> 
> >  The previous posts got me to thinking about meeting up with
> >other PaddleWisers at either the Kittery Trading Post Paddle Sports Show
> >2000 >being held 31 March until 2 April or the LL Bean Symposium from 14
> July
> >through >16 July.
> >Then there is the Great Lakes Sea Kayak Symposium the weekend after the LL
> >Bean Symposium for the Upper Midwesterners...
> >
>     --And of course the original PaddleSport Show in NJ the same weekend as
> the Kittery....  less than an hour from NYC.

Which reminds me, I am planning to be at a handful of events in the next
few months to talk about folding kayaks and certainly would like to meet
with fellow PaddleWisers who want to drop by.  We wouldn't even have to
talk about foldables, honest! :-)

March 18-19 Norwalk, Connecticut The Small Boat Shop Expo.  They are not
set up for talks but I will be at the Feathercraft/Klepper booth (they
are the only folding kayak exhibitors there).  Details about the show
can be gotten by calling 203-854-5223 or
http://www.thesmallboatshop.com.  There is a $5 fee, I think I have the
rate right.

March 31-April 2 in Somerset, New Jersey The Jersey Paddler Paddlesport
show.  As Joe Pylka says, it is less than an hour from NYC and a little
over that from Philadelphia and probably about 3 hours and change from
Washington DC.  I will be giving a talk at 11:30 AM Sat and 2:30 PM on
Sunday.  At other times I will be at the Feathercraft booth or hanging
around with Debbie Reeves at the Atlantic Sea Kayakers booth or at the
Anorak booth with Gabriel Romeu and others.  Details for the show  can
be gotten from http://www.jerseypaddler.com or calling 1-800-22-KAYAK.
The entrance fee is $7.  This is a huge show of all sorts of gears and
boats.  It may be about the biggest of this type except for the Rutabaga
one,, Canoecopia, in Madison, Wisconsin.  Best keep your wallet at home
or take out a second mortgage before going.

Either April 8 or April 22 in New York City.  Run by the New York Kayak
Company and completely on folding kayaks for the morning or the whole
day with on-water demos.  They sell Kleppers, Feathercrafts and
Nautiraids.  It should be fun.  I think we are settling on the latter
date, the 22nd.  Call Randy Henriksen at 1-800-KAYAK-99.  There will
likely be a fee or you will be asked to make a contribution to the
Downtown Boathouse where it is being held.

May 5-7 in the San Francisco area.  This is a weekend on folding kayaks
and will be based at a campground with paddling 10 or 15 minutes away. 
It is being run by BASK (Bay Area Sea Kayakers) and I am a catalyst for
the talks, show-n-tell, gear discussions, etc.  The Western Folding
Kayak Center will be there with boats to show (it sells all the major
brands of foldables).  There is a fee and attendence will be limited in
numbers. BASK members will get first crack at signing up for this
camping weekend.  I think you can pop in for the day, but I am fuzzy on
the details. 

June 7th Washington DC area.  Alexandria VA to be exact.  At The
Atlantic Kayak Shop (1-800-297-0066)  I will be giving a 2-hour evening
talk.  I think their web site is http://www.atlantickayak.com

After all of that, even I won't be able to look at another folding
kayak. :-)  Wanna bet!!!

ralph diaz   
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From: Chuck Holst <CHUCK_at_multitech.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:26:35 -0600
>>
OK, all you artists out there.  How about a "logo" designing competition?  I

believe it was Karen Hancock who once suggested yellow circles or something.

Perhaps something like a yellow smiley face but with owl eyes  (using the 
"wise" in Paddlewise)?  Or some crossed paddles somewhere.  
>>

Or some crossed owl eyes. If we have crossed paddles, one will have to be
feathered and the other unfeathered. Likewise if we have crossed owls. :-)

I know -- how about Minerva with a paddle in one hand and an owl in the
other?

Chuck Holst

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From: Karen Hancock <magpi_at_transport.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:16:58 -0800
> >>
> OK, all you artists out there.  How about a "logo" designing competition?
I
>
> believe it was Karen Hancock who once suggested yellow circles or
something.
>


Hmm??

That must be the yellow name tag idea we thought might work at the Port
Townsend Symposium. I don't think anyone wore one! (I admit I didn't.)  :-)

Karen


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From: Jackie Fenton <jackie_at_intelenet.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 14:35:40 -0800 (PST)
> >  The previous posts got me to thinking about meeting up with
> >other PaddleWisers at either the Kittery Trading Post Paddle Sports Show
> >2000 >being held 31 March until 2 April or the LL Bean Symposium from 14
> July
> >through >16 July.
> >Then there is the Great Lakes Sea Kayak Symposium the weekend after the LL
> >Bean Symposium for the Upper Midwesterners...
> >
>     --And of course the original PaddleSport Show in NJ the same weekend as
> the Kittery....  less than an hour from NYC.


If you folks can send me info on these symposiums, whether they be the
US coast or the British coast or Argentina, I'll set up a calendar for
these events on the PaddleWise website... also any proposed gatherings
of PaddleWise folks.    If you would like to add contact info for other 
PaddleWisers to get in touch at main events (symposiums), I'll include 
that, too.  Send the info to me via private email and I'll set up the 
calendar of boat symposiums... any coast (or lake/river, whatever the 
case may be) in any country.

Cheers,

Jackie

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From: <Gypsykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 18:10:46 EST
In a message dated 02/08/2000 5:55:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
jackie_at_intelenet.net writes:

<< Send the info to me via private email and I'll set up the 
 calendar of boat symposiums... any coast (or lake/river, whatever the 
 case may be) in any country. >>

As if the list mom didn't have enough to do!  Thanks, Jackie, WE REALLY DO 
APPRECIATE your efforts.  

You'll probably get your reward in heaven, but, in the meantime if you need 
some R&R... you are more than welcome to come to Miami for a visit.

Sandy Kramer
Miami
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From: Jackie Fenton <jackie_at_intelenet.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 19:57:12 -0800 (PST)
> From: Wes Boyd <boydwe_at_dmci.net>

> But, let's be organized about it, and find out who's interested in this and
> where the interest is. I'll even volunteer to be the fall guy on this.

Words like music to my ears :-)  Thanks, Wes.

> If you would be interested in attending a late-spring paddlewise
> get-together within a long-weekend travel distance of where you live,
> e-mail me personally, back channel to avoid cluttering the list. 

Wes has a good idea and a good point.  If you guys get this rolling,
I'll volunteer to put notices up on the PaddleWise website, if you like,
in the form of a calendar.  I also still agree to maintain a calendar of 
main events as folks are always looking for them and can make arrangements 
to meet each other via contact info provided by at least one individual.

So, please, send your information to Wes directly as he recommends and
we'll see what turns up.  Wes might also want to know whether you would
like to boat camp, car camp, or park the boat at a hotel :-)

Thanks again, Wes.

Cheers,

Jackie

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From: <volinjo_at_juno.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 23:11:59 -0500
Vermont in May doesn't do anything for you, does it?
J

On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 18:15:18 EST Gypsykayak_at_aol.com writes:
> Would it be too much to ask to have it somewhere where the water is 
> warm?
> 
> Sandy Kramer
> Miami
>
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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 09:06:18 -0500
Florida, AFTER the tourist season is a great place to convene. It's the dry
season and accommodation in places like the Keys and the West Coast are dirt
cheap and car rentals are rock bottom as well. Air into Ft. Lauderdale or
Miami is inexpensive especially on one of the budget airlines like Spirit,
South West or Air Trans.

May is one of the nicest months in South Florida with water temps in the low
80s and generally low humidity and dry conditions.

I used to organize Cyberdives for our dive group on Compuserve in the mid
90s and they were always successful. (No I'm not volunteering..)

CYA

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From: <Gypsykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:04:18 EST
In a message dated 02/09/2000 9:05:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
BDenton_at_aquagulf.com writes:

<< May is one of the nicest months in South Florida with water temps in the 
low
 80s and generally low humidity and dry conditions.>>

The Memorial Day weekend?????  May 27-29.   
 
 I used to organize Cyberdives for our dive group on Compuserve in the mid
 90s and they were always successful. (No I'm not volunteering..)  >>

What a wimp!  You wouldn't leave it all up to me, would you???

We could probably arrange for a special deal on rentals from Florida Bay 
Outfitters, meet up with the Paradise Paddlers (and other local paddlers), 
and camp at America Outdoors.  Waterfront on the bayside.


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From: Reeves, Debbie (Debbie) <"Reeves,>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 14:06:57 -0500
Ralph Diaz wrote:

> Fourth of July is out because of
> OpSail and the huge celebration expected.  Basically, local waters in
> the harbor will be closed to all but parade traffic for some 36 hours or
> more on those days.  And even the Boathouse embayment may be invaded by
> moored powerboats, at least that is what is coming out of the Coast
> Guard, which is likely to freeze traffic and push it off to the sides of
> the river.
> 
And speaking of OpSail, I received a call from our local Coast Guard
Auxilliary unit last week asking if we wanted to run a sea kayaker safety
program again this year.  Due to OpSail, they are apparently under a lot of
stress and scheduling constraints already.  We discussed who all would be
participating in the OpSail parade and I suggested, of course, that no
waterway procession would be complete without a kayaking contingent.  He got
a big laugh out of that and muttered some comment (like:  You're too much!),
but I really think we should be represented in the pageantry, darn it!  Who
do I have to talk to?  Ralph, you've got connections over there.  Call the
Harbor Master and get us on that list!!!

Debbie Reeves
Who is packing her parade party hat as she types
[in] Sandy Hook, NJ

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