G'day, Its been a while since flares were discussed and mine are due to be replaced. Wondered if anyone had recommendations on flares that could be carried in a lifejacket or any other comments about flares for kayaks. I'm particularly interested in dual purpose flare/smoke devices, where to get them and how to use them! For example once the flare is used can it be turned over and the smoke sction used? Has the technology changed much in the last 3 years? All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] Hello Peter, > Its been a while since flares were discussed and mine are due to be > replaced. Sorry, I hadn´t read the discussion. Lot´s to do... For example once the flare is used can it be > turned over and the smoke sction used? Has the technology changed much in > the last 3 years? What you are looking for is the day-night-signal from Pains Wessex (british - but also in Australia). Have a look at www.pwss.com products-pyrotechnics-flares&signals. I got a Dummy at home. It is extrem compact, absolute waterproof (up to 30ft) and you could use each side on its own. Smoke for about 15s (?) and a red fire light for about 10-12s (??). But it is horrific expensive, costs here over 50 USD (normal price), within my collecting order about 40 USD ! The british RNLI guys got 2 peaces at their life jackets/pfd, I was told. Okay, the normal flares are bigger and better, but the day-night-signal is the most compact (with both sides usable) one, you can get - as I know. Next year, I will order me one and place it in a separate bag at my life jacket. Hope this helps - and all the best Jochen Grikschat ------------------------------------- surfsaturn.de präsentiert: Nutzen Sie das kostenlose Webbüro mit E-Mail, SMS, Fax, Terminkalender und Adressbuch. zur Anmeldung geht es hier: https://register.surfeu.de/saturn_signup/ Timelife präsentiert: Akte X - Die unheimlichen Fälle des FBI Die Wahrheit ist irgendwo da draußen ... und jetzt auch bei TIME-LIFE! Kommen Sie mit, wenn Dana Scully und Fox Mulder versuchen, unerklärliche Phänomene aufzudecken ... Sichern Sie sich den ersten Titel und erleben Sie, wie alles begann... Akte X - Season 1, Teil 1 jetzt in einer limitierten Sonderedition zum Kennenlern-Preis von nur: DM 29,95 jetzt testen: http://www.timelife.de/surfeu/aktex/saturn.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi Peter, I carry Norabel Hansson Day-Night Distress Signals. Nato stock #1370-17-031-3774. I got these from Pete Goss after his multi-gazillion dollar boat/toy destructed off our coast last year during an attempt at some kind of cross-Atlantic speed record. They are about 1 1/2" diameter and 5" long. Red night flare on one end, orange day smoke on the other. I can carry 3 in a PFD pocket. The one I have tried worked very well. Either end can be used without effecting the other. Unfortunately, none of the marine suppliers around here can seem to locate a distributor. They are made by Norabel Hansson AB, Sweden. Cheers, Kerry -- Kerry Doubleday Halifax, N.S. Canada PeterO wrote: > G'day, > > Its been a while since flares were discussed and mine are due to be > replaced. Wondered if anyone had recommendations on flares that could be > carried in a lifejacket or any other comments about flares for kayaks. I'm > particularly interested in dual purpose flare/smoke devices, where to get > them and how to use them! For example once the flare is used can it be > turned over and the smoke sction used? Has the technology changed much in > the last 3 years? > > All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Peter, Wayne Horodowich and Derek Hutchinson just put on a discussion forum at a local paddling shop Wed night and this is one of the topics we were discussing. Wayne also had his new video with him and was showing clips. One of the clips he showed was a demo of the different flare types that are available and how they look from just under a mile a way both at night and during the day. If you get a chance, this is worthwile watching. AS A RESULT OF SEEING THIS, I BOUGHT A SIGNAL MIRROR YESTERDAY. The flares seemed to be fairly visible at night if you are looking in the right direction at the right time, but almost all were impossible to see during the day. Smoke seemed to be the best for daylight visibility followed by the parachute flares. Unfortunately, the parachute flares are extremely big and costly (about $45 US each). Wayne also suggested not carrying the flares on your PFD. He suggested a small dry bag with your rescue equipment be carried behind your seat. For what it's worth, Wayne personally carries a pistol type flare gun that comes with several flares and the total cost is about $45 for the gun and flares. In the video, it seemed about the easiest to use and was as visible as any of the other types of flares. Steve Holtzman ----- Original Message ----- From: PeterO To: Paddlewise (E-mail) Sent: September 21, 2001 1:25 AM Subject: [Paddlewise] Flares / Smokes G'day, Its been a while since flares were discussed and mine are due to be replaced. Wondered if anyone had recommendations on flares that could be carried in a lifejacket or any other comments about flares for kayaks. I'm particularly interested in dual purpose flare/smoke devices, where to get them and how to use them! For example once the flare is used can it be turned over and the smoke sction used? Has the technology changed much in the last 3 years? All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Peter Another option you may want to consider is dye. I carry a film canister full and from what I have found out its apparently very visible from the air leaving a huge green fluorescent trail. Admittedly it wont be much good at night but its cheap and providing its kept dry lasts a long time. It can be used as well as flares. You can buy it a most plumbers store as they use it for checking leaks in pipes. David Canberra, Australia -----Original Message----- From: PeterO [mailto:rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 6:26 PM To: Paddlewise (E-mail) Subject: [Paddlewise] Flares / Smokes G'day, Its been a while since flares were discussed and mine are due to be replaced. Wondered if anyone had recommendations on flares that could be carried in a lifejacket or any other comments about flares for kayaks. I'm particularly interested in dual purpose flare/smoke devices, where to get them and how to use them! For example once the flare is used can it be turned over and the smoke sction used? Has the technology changed much in the last 3 years? All the best, PeterO ************************************************************************ *** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ************************************************************************ *** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Peter, The brand is Orion and I know it's available at West Marine. If you want to see it, the web page is http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/commerce/command/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=201 &prrfnbr=7208&store_num=8&store_name=Safety&subdept_num=424&subdept_name=Sig naling%20Devices&class_num=425&class_name=Uscg%20Flares > Wayne's pistol flare sounds ideal in terms of speed and simplicity of use. > Do you know the brand name or supplier? Good luck, Steve *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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