G'Day, Some years ago I bought some patches made of a black sticky material backed with foil, for patching holes in kayaks at sea. I'ld like to buy some more but can't remember who I bought them from. Does anyone know where I can purchase such patches? Thanks and all the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 5 May 2005 at 22:16, PeterO wrote: > Some years ago I bought some patches made of a black sticky material > backed with foil, for patching holes in kayaks at sea. Would that be Bituthene, Miradry or Denzo tape? I've never heard of these until fooling around with Kayak Wiki, but these match your description. It looks like plumbing supply shops are a place to start. Otherwise, Google is your friend... Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Black, sticky, foil backed....makes me think of flexible adhesive flashing materials used when installing windows in residential construction. ProtectoWrap is one brand. Grace Vycor is another manufacturer/product line. Stop by a good building supplier and you can buy it in rolls 4", 6", 9", and 12" wide. Sticky stuff. Or...stop by a construction site when you notice they are installing the windows and grab the scraps for free. K *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Keith posted (snip): >Grace Vycor is another manufacturer/product line. Stop by a good building >supplier and you can buy it in rolls 4", 6", 9", and 12" wide. Sticky >stuff...Or...stop by a construction site when you notice they are >installing the windows and grab the scraps for free.< Or, you could just order a kayak with a proper expedition lay-up in the first place. :-) Doug Lloyd Victoria BC *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug wrote: - >Or, you could just order a kayak with a proper >expedition lay-up in the first place. :-) Richard wrote: - >Does this work any better than good old fashioned, duct tape? Lots of people wrote: - >"Denzo tape" G'Day Doug' Richard and Paddlewise, Thanks everyone for all the suggestions - Looks as if I'll be hanging around building suppliers for a while, searching for the mysterious Denzo tape - it sounds like the material I'm looking for, just need to translate it into Australian:~) Richard - My experience with duct tape is that it doesn't stick to wet fibreglass. I'm looking for a quick on the water repair when paddling along non landable stretches. Doug' I'm guessing you mean polythene kayaks! :~) Last trip we had three minor boat casualties - perhaps the wisest words you will hear on Paddlewise this week - don't try to sail through gauntlets! :~) All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Well, real paddlers don't paddle polythene plastic, though my Tupperwear sandwich container has admittedly proven durable over the last decade of lunchtime abuse. :-) Incidentally, I was out last Sunday for a paddle around an unfortunately far too mild Race Rocks with some fellow fibreglass (and wood) enthusiasts. One of the gang was in his brand-spanking new P&H. A virgin hull! How quaint. What a sight for sorry, old eyes like mine. Anyway, he had been going to let me try out the new Quest, but after seeing me run my old Nordkapp up over one of the worst looking razor-sharp barnacle covered rocks anyone has ever seen, he declined further offer. Of course, I picked those rocks specifically, as they were so dramatic looking, just to prove my hull could take it. And the shock value is kinda fun for those who haven't paddled with me before. Of course, for my troubles, I was labelled a "Cowboy" by the more senior of the BCU followers. Ya hoooo! Hey, we had a great time after the main paddle playing at towing, rescue drills, re-enters, etc. I was getting dizzy, so sat-out the last of the on-water activities which was a simulated hull-repair scenario, but apparently they did get the duct tape to stick just fine to the wet hull of the rescued boat. Seems to matter what brand the tape is. Also, as for the Denzo tape, I have been on a remote paddle where there was some hull damage to a boat (not mine, of course!), and the Denzo tape didn't work well at all. BTW, it was interesting observing these inspiring paddlers I was with. All are working hard at improving their skills, taking courses, following the most excellent BCU way, and replacing their kayaks with designs that promote more lively and subjectively more fun paddling. The wrong kayak can sure limit one's progression in the above mentioned direction. I took the time to work on my offside roll and sculling up/deep water sculling, all with my bad left shoulder - which I don't usually practice with. Probably not for the last twelve years. It all came back instantly, like I'd never not practiced. But I paid for it that night, and the next. Now, can I get a plastic joint replacement for my shoulder? Doug Lloyd Victoria BC Peter posted: > Doug wrote: - >>Or, you could just order a kayak with a proper >>expedition lay-up in the first place. :-) > > Richard wrote: - >>Does this work any better than good old fashioned, duct tape? > > Lots of people wrote: - >>"Denzo tape" > > > G'Day Doug' Richard and Paddlewise, > > Thanks everyone for all the suggestions - Looks as if I'll be hanging > around > building suppliers for a while, searching for the mysterious Denzo tape - > it > sounds like the material I'm looking for, just need to translate it into > Australian:~) > > Richard - My experience with duct tape is that it doesn't stick to wet > fibreglass. I'm looking for a quick on the water repair when paddling > along > non landable stretches. > > Doug' I'm guessing you mean polythene kayaks! :~) Last trip we had three > minor boat casualties - perhaps the wisest words you will hear on > Paddlewise > this week - don't try to sail through gauntlets! :~) > > All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>apparently they did get the duct tape to stick >just fine to the wet hull of the rescued boat. >Seems to matter what brand the tape is. Also, >as for the Denzo tape, I have been on a remote >paddle where there was some hull damage to a boat >(not mine, of course!), and the Denzo tape didn't >work well at all. G'Day Doug, "Seems to matter what brand the tape is". This must be the key to contrary results with materials for repair! Theres no way any of the duct tapes I've tried would stick to a wet fibreglass hull - but maybe what I've used isn't true duct tape. I haven't tried the "Denzo" or "Denso" tape yet. (Thanks Ron for the antipodean spelling). As a digression on a topic related to the brand of protective materials. A few months ago we were discussing helicopter tape to protect against keel damage. Again the brand must matter because the general opinion was that Helicopter tape wouldn't give satisfactory protection. I was suprised then last weekend to see an example of 3M helicopter tape in very good condiion, that had been on the keel of a fibre glass boat for two years. The boat was routinely dragged across sand and run up on to sand beaches. Mostly Australian beaches are sand not pebbles and it wouldn't have stood up to oyster beds - but for protecting against regular landings on sand the 3M tape seemed a very good solution. So the brand seems to count hugely. Do you know what brand of Duct tape was being used for the in water repair? Perhaps Aussies should buy their duct tape from the US and Americans get their helicopter tape from Oz! All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 18 May 2005 at 23:19, PeterO wrote: > 3M helicopter tape US$125 a roll!!! I think I'll stick to using gelcoat (+ or - cabosil). Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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