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From: Dell Moore <milo_357_at_yahoo.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] scratching the itch...
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:55:58 -0700 (PDT)
Man, my wife would kill me if I bought another kayak right now, even
though I think I'd like a sea kayak, or that WS Pamlico Sport Excel....
Yeah, that's the ticket!

*GRIN*

-- Dell


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From: Chris & Ellen Kohut <chriskayak_at_earthlink.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] scratching the itch......my condition is pretty much cleared up now....
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:02:13 -0400
    Ok, ...........let's raise the stakes a bit.  As you sit at your terminal
at work......the boss is terrorizing some other hapless soul at the moment and
you are dreaming of your absolute 'dream' kayak...........suddenly over to your
left,  just outside your periphery  the copy machine seems to be behaving
oddly.......... it coughs and wheezes, and that corner of the office fills with
an acrid blue smoke, like your Studebaker wagon used to disgorge every morning
during warm-up exercises.  Out of the azul haze steps ...........a barely
recognizable form.......you park your bifocals on your forehead for a moment
and swivel your chair, one elbow slung on the backrest to have a better look at
this ghostly form, now wheezing and coughing herself and stepping from the blue
haze.........Why.....it's Glenda!!!!......... your own personal fairy
gosh-mother!   And she's rather oddly appareled as well,  head to toe in a
kamelika (that's an Aleut sea-lion intestine rain slicker, for the uninitiated
), and seems to be brandishing an unfeathered King Islander single bladed
paddle (yes, I know that all single paddles are unfeathered, smartypants), but
his one has *seaquins* all over it!
    Immediately you realize that dressed in so oddly a manner for a Minneapolis
office workday, she probably has something in the grant-you-three-wishes-line
in mind for you today.

            So here it is.......quickly you blurt out your choices of kayaks in
descending order.....three of 'em......as she is a magic fairy gosh mother and
therefore price is of no object  you let your imagination go wild.......and
quickly before your boss remembers that you haven't been tormented yet today
and enters your cubicle to find you with an oddly appareled woman and fairy
dust all over your keyboard and monitor.......

                And the choices are..........  1.

                                                    2.

                                                        3.  .......?
'


Dell Moore wrote:

> Man, my wife would kill me if I bought another kayak right now, even
> though I think I'd like a sea kayak, or that WS Pamlico Sport Excel....
> Yeah, that's the ticket!
>
> *GRIN*
>
> -- Dell
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From: Colin Calder <c.j.calder_at_abdn.ac.uk>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] scratching the itch......my condition is pretty much cleared up now....
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:20:42 +0100
Chris & Ellen wrote:

snip
> she probably has something in the grant-you-three-wishes-line
> in mind for you today.
>
>             So here it is.......quickly you blurt out your choices of kayaks in
> descending order.....three of 'em......as she is a magic fairy gosh mother and
> therefore price is of no object  you let your imagination go wild.......
>                 And the choices are..........

1. Pintail, ocean cockpit, white deck on white hull (colour is important!)
2. Knordkapp J, ocean cockpit, white deck on white hull
3. Aleut double (colours to be negotiated with SO)

But of course, 3 isn't nearly enough, do I desire a new kayak, ww boat, canoe?,
oh think of the sail rig I could put on an open canoe, is a double a shortcut to
marital strife?, should I go for the Pintail - maybe I'd need to paddle a Romany a
bit more - for the Romany/Pintail choice is indeed a hard one to make, in fact
make that the Romany/Pintail/Anas Acuta choice .......... decisions decisions
decisions!

But then again I just got back to work on Tuesday after a glorious trip to the
west coast (of Scotland for all you new worlders) paddling around Mull, Staffa,
and the Treshnish isles in my battered poly capella .... its maybe not which boat,
but the paddling that counts ...

Cheers

Colin Calder
57º19'N  2º10'W



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From: Gary Pewitt <gpewitt_at_execpc.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] scratching the itch......my condition is pretty much cleared up now....
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:12:36 -0500 (CDT)
1 Klepper Expedition
2 Folbot Kodiak
3 CLC 17


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From: John Fereira <fereira_at_albert.mannlib.cornell.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] scratching the itch......my condition is
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 99 11:47:55 EDT
> 
> 
>And the choices are..........  
 1. Romany Explorer - for everyday paddling
 2. Feathercraft Khatsalano S - for travel
 3. Foster Rowe Vyneck - for expedition and long distance cruising

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From: Patrick Maun <pmaun_at_bitstream.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] scratching the itch......my condition is pretty much cleared up now....
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:50:04 -0500
Great question,

I am actually curious to hear some opinions on these boats. I 
currently have a Current Designs GTS which I love, but to turn the 
thing you need to pretty much need to lean until submerged. Wonderful 
during heavy gusts. I have never used the rudder. I am looking at 
picking up a second boat this fall for all those important reasons (I 
want one, my girlfriend won't admit she needs one, I want to be 
called "admiral"). So...

1. Current Designs Extreme -- I was a sceptic, but then I paddled one 
this past spring. It's fast, tracks *and* leans very nicely. Any 
opinions on this boat?

2. Romany Explorer -- I love the heavy buildup and the 
maneuverability, plus the peer pressure of living in the Twin Cities 
where everyone seems to paddle one of these of the GTS.

3. Plastic Boat of Death -- maybe a Skerray or something shorter and 
maneuverable to play in Lake Superior surf and loan to clumsy 
friends. Any recommendations on this? I don't care how tippy the boat 
is, if they want to paddle my boat, they need to get wet dammit.


-Patrick

At 9:02 AM -0400 7/14/99, Chris & Ellen Kohut wrote:
>[SNIP]
>
>            So here it is.......quickly you blurt out your choices 
>of kayaks in
>descending order.....three of 'em......as she is a magic fairy gosh mother and
>therefore price is of no object  you let your imagination go wild.......and
>quickly before your boss remembers that you haven't been tormented yet today
>and enters your cubicle to find you with an oddly appareled woman and fairy
>dust all over your keyboard and monitor.......
>
>                And the choices are..........  1.
>
>                                                    2.
>
>                                                        3.  .......?
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From: Dave Uebele <daveu_at_sptddog.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] scratching the itch......my condition is pretty much cleared up now....
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:35:39 -0700
Ok, first part is how did you scratch the kayak itch.

To take our minds off being new parents, we decide to take up
kayaking (we've both played with other types of boats and in the water before).
Well, keeping it simple, lets get a roto molded double so we
can paddle together, plus carry the awaited baby.  The HMS rubbermaid
is purchased.  

Hmm, a single would be nice, my uncle had a wooden kayak when I was
growing up.  plus I've been reading about rescues and an aided rescue
is easier, so we really should have several boats...
So we make a trip up to Port Townsend to check out the pygmy kayaks.
Well, we both fall in love with the looks, so we end up with 2 Coho
kits. This gives me an excuse to escape the infant while working
in the shop.

Ok, first launch of the Coho, our toddler screams her head off
at being left behind in the boat she saw dad building in the shop (so
much for escaping huh ;-)

Well, we'd been thinking about a "Pungo" now that the toddler is
too big for laps, and useless as a paddler in the double. This way
one of us can paddle the toddler and one in the Coho. Gosh, too bad that
mom is still a littler nervous about the low primary stability of
the Coho, I'll just have to make the sacrifice ;-)
Have fun in the pungo with the kid...

The original roto molded double, we keep that around if friends or family
visit and want to join us kayaking.

Second part: Future plans? wish boats?

At some point the toddler will grow into her own boat.
Get some nice scaled down kayak for her so we don't have to deal with
her in our kayak.
A skin on frame might be fun to build, and they look pretty cool.
and there is always some sexy sleek fiberglass kayak to tempt
me until I look at the price tag.

And lastly, the heretic wishes (I even purchased the plans). 
I guess I caught the boat building disease...
Build a 20 foot Mahogany decked runabout, like those 1930 Chris Craft
runabouts. plunk an inboard V6 into and go be an *sshole power boater,
making nasty wakes for the kayaks (while towing our kayaks to some cool 
starting point).  The runabout is actually mostly my wife's serious
fantasy boat, but I can appreciate it.

I have to admit the Pygmy "wineglass wherry" is also singing its
siren song. row the family around, or rig up a sail and play with it
as a small sailboat.

Looking forward to going to kayak symposiums or swapping boats with
other kayakers so I find other kayaks to lust after.

At some point, I might get want to try white water, so I'd have to
start paying attention to ww kayaks.

dave
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From: Kirk Olsen <kolsen_at_imagelan.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] scratching the itch......my condition is pretty much cleared up now....
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:36:57 -0400 (EDT)
>             So here it is.......quickly you blurt out your choices of kayaks in
> descending order.....three of 'em

Not, bad, my top 2 choices are in the garage.
 
>  And the choices are..........  

1. VCP PinTail -  wonderful all around boat, I regularly take beginers 
out in this, but use it myself for skills practice, winter paddling, and 
playing in the surf.  A lightweight one be the only change if the 
current PinTail wasn't already in the garage.
2. Carbon fiber race surf ski - I've currently got a futura carerra, but 
may have to start sharing it with the co-owner so we could add another 
fast boat, preferably a faster boat.  I'm open to hints.
3. The ideal family canoe.  We're shopping for this one and haven't found it.
It's under 50 pounds though....


For those checking their itch, you have a bad case when you buy a canoe/kayak
trailer because you can't decide what to take for the weekend at the 
lake/ocean  ;-)

kirk
trailer owner.
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From: K. Whilden <kwhilden_at_u.washington.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] scratching the itch
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:13:56 -0700 (PDT)
I've been away from paddlewise for a bit, but I can never resist talking
about buying more boats. :)

So far I've got:
1 pygmy Arctic Tern
1 carbon kevlar surf kayak (Mega Jester Rio)
1 amazingly fun rodeo kayak (pyranha inazone 240)
1 creek boat (Riot Kix)
1 squirt boat (New Wave bigfoot)

I would like to build a super low volume skin frame kayak for the express
purpose of learning all those cool rolls that I saw Maligiaq perform. I am
also interested a building a traditional Baidarka with the original style
bifurcated bow. Finally, I wouldn't mind having one of Jimmy Snyder's new
squirt designs.

There are also several boats that I want which cannot be purchased. I have
already started designing them. Eventually I'll let the details be known,
but expect one design to be seen primarily in the surf, and the other to
be seen primarily in a tide rip.


Kevin
 

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From: <Sandykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] scratching the itch...
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:53:37 EDT
In a message dated 7/14/99 8:28:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
milo_357_at_yahoo.com writes:

<< Man, my wife would kill me if I bought another kayak right now, even
 though I think I'd like a sea kayak, or that WS Pamlico Sport Excel.... >>

Ah, yes, another advantage of being single!  

By the way, I have a Pamlico that I consider my "canoe" and have used on the 
Peace River when the rest were in Grummans. 

PS: This was a used rental so I got it cheap, but then found out that 
paddling the Pamlico as a double was awful without a rudder - so that was an 
added expense.

Our friend who keeps selling and upgrading boats is on a different track from 
those of us who keep adding to our fleet (I have sold 3 - one I regretted); 
but it did make me think of something. 

It's worth buying well-known makes and models of boats that have a re-sale 
demand.  For example, one of our outfitters has a waiting list for his used 
Prisms.  Once you've bought a second-hand boat, you can pretty much get your 
money back when you sell it.

Sandy Kramer
Miami, FL
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