How many kayaks are named? I read recently that it was considered inappropriate to give a kayak a name. The argument went along the lines that a kayak should be used as an extension of the body, not something separate providing a safe haven after the manner of a larger boat. Now I can think of half a dozen good reasons to name a kayak and wondered what proportion of kayakers did? So if anyone is interested and would like to reply direct or on Paddlewise I'll give the results of a 'straw poll' next week! PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
hi Peter O, kathy and i have named 3 of our canoes/kayaks. my solo canoe is named after a most sweet black cat, Lazzer-Ray, who came to us after being tossed out because she was due. laz raised her kittens under a neighbors shrub, then moved in with us when it got cold. the kittens died early on that summer. laz was afraid of me for 2 years, but then adopted me and we have been great friends for the past 10 years. the canoe's name is a nick name for her, Lazy-Bear. my kayak is named after one of the sweetest tabby cats you could ever hope to meet. Lilly was extra soft, with a big white belly that she loved to have patted. Lilly was a gentle cat, who live with Laz and us for about 8 yrs. the kayak's name is Tigger, a nickname for Lilly. kathy's boat is named, but not for a person. our tandem canoe is yet to be named... it's special, but we haven't thought of an appropriate name yet. cu, bliven *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
<< How many kayaks are named? >> Don't name any of my boats (all kayaks). I adhere to the argument that when I am in my boat it is a part of me; or I am a part of it; or whatever. We are one and the same. For what it's worth, I don't name any other of my body parts either :-) Scott So.Cal. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Named my ww kayak "Oxygen". Seemed sortta appropriate given what was going through my mind at the time. Named my Chestnut "Anadyomene", for when surging up out of a trough she was a lovely vision of Venus rising, and was enchanting when laying on the beach at days end. She's retired now. Call my tripping canoe "The Big Red Bijag" or "The Mother Ship", but have yet to find a name which adequately describes her personality. Inherited the name "Factory Bear" on my marathon canoe. Doesn't describe the boat very well, but does describe its first owner. Have yet to name my sea kayak. A fine boat, well deserving of a name, but no need to rush. Cheers, Richard Culpeper www.geocities.com/~culpeper Peter Osman wrote: > How many kayaks are named? I read recently that it was considered > inappropriate to give a kayak a name. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 09:33 AM 7/3/99 +1000, Peter Osman wrote: > How many kayaks are named? I read recently that it was considered >inappropriate to give a kayak a name. The argument went along the lines that >a kayak should be used as an extension of the body, not something separate >providing a safe haven after the manner of a larger boat. Now I can think of >half a dozen good reasons to name a kayak and wondered what proportion of >kayakers did? So if anyone is interested and would like to reply direct or >on Paddlewise I'll give the results of a 'straw poll' next week! My kayak is bright red and was purchased on the fourth of July weekend, so I have on occasion referred to it as "The Firecracker". I threatened to name it "Independence", but that didn't stick either. Mostly, it's "the kayak" or "the Heron" or "the boat." The van that I tow the kayak around (on a trailer) is named "Smoky Joe", however -- it needs a ring job. -- Wes *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I have only named my Expedition Sea kayak, I named it: Len's Island. I came up with the name whilst having a break, drinking hot chocolate and eating some biscuits, during an open crossing no land in site, it was like I'm sitting on my own Island in the ocean. Groetjes, Len -----Original Message----- From: Peter Osman [SMTP:PeterO_at_ambri.com.au] Sent: 03 July 1999 00:34 To: 'paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net' Subject: [Paddlewise] The naming of boats How many kayaks are named? I read recently that it was considered inappropriate to give a kayak a name. The argument went along the lines that a kayak should be used as an extension of the body, not something separate providing a safe haven after the manner of a larger boat. Now I can think of half a dozen good reasons to name a kayak and wondered what proportion of kayakers did? So if anyone is interested and would like to reply direct or on Paddlewise I'll give the results of a 'straw poll' next week! PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I believe that names are magic; they dip into the formlessness of the void and lace it with packages of identity. When you name something, you bring it into existence. And with a name you can venture out into the unknown and know who you are and where you are going. That is why names should be carefully chosen, to fit you or your belongings as intimately as a well-fitted kayak. Just imagine being separated from your kayak in wild water, and having that name in your mind to cling to..something to reach for... I haven't named either my folding kayak or my new inflatable touring kayak yet..because I haven't found the right fitting names yet. (I did think of "Blowfish" for my inflatable, but Audrey Sutherland has already named her boat that...besides, since I haven't seen a blowfish in the wild yet, it would be wrong for me to use the name of something that I don't really have firsthand experience with. The names will come when the time is right. Names should never be rushed...*s* An acquaintance of mine here in Japan, who kayaked all around the main Japanese islands three years ago, named his kayak "Streams of Whiskey", from the song. (He himself is affectionately named "Gorilla" by his friends.) I always thought that was one of the most beautiful names I ever heard for a kayak. Miguel <(^J^)> -- Miguel Jorgensen Arboleda Talking Tree Journeys butuki_at_gol.com eyes to see, hands to touch, legs to walk, and a mind under the sky *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> How many kayaks are named? I read recently that it was considered >inappropriate to give a kayak a name. The argument went along the lines that >a kayak should be used as an extension of the body, not something separate >providing a safe haven after the manner of a larger boat. Now I can think of >half a dozen good reasons to name a kayak and wondered what proportion of >kayakers did? So if anyone is interested and would like to reply direct or >on Paddlewise I'll give the results of a 'straw poll' next week! My first canoe, down in Florida, was called "Gator Grabber" because that was what it was used for. Up here the WW boat is the "Blue Meanie", and the flatwater is the Flying Loon, referring more to the drawings on the bow. I'm more of a believer in eyes on the bow of a boat. The Blue Meanie logo is "Glove", from the Yellow Submarine. Looking through some old, old, ACA yearbooks, around 1905 or so, I see that almost every member also listed a name for his boat. Mostly Indian names, but more personalized ones as well. JP *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hmm, the roto molded double is affectionately called the HMS rubbermaid. On a related thread, for a new boat, is there any special ceremony for first launch? I'm just finishing up a pygmy stitch and glue kayak, and hoping to finish outfitting and do a test launch this weekend. For larger boats, I understand smashing a bottle of Dom Perigon on the bow is in order, but due to back orders for y2k parties, I don't see any in the store, and not sure I'd want to see if the bottle or the bow is stronger anyway. Maybe sprinkle some sparkling wine and say a few words "f*cking A, lets see if floats and stays upright". Or is Single malt more in order? dave -- Dave Uebele (daveu_at_sptddog.com) Spotted Dog Systems http://sptddog.com/daveu.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> > Hmm, the roto molded double is affectionately called the HMS rubbermaid. > My friend has a fleet of rental boats. The only one that has a name is the Necky Amaruk double. He calls it the Mother Ship. > On a related thread, for a new boat, is there any special ceremony > for first launch? > I'm just finishing up a pygmy stitch and glue kayak, and hoping to > finish outfitting and do a test launch this weekend. > > For larger boats, I understand smashing a bottle of Dom Perigon > on the bow is in order, but due to back orders for y2k parties, > I don't see any in the store, and not sure I'd want to see > if the bottle or the bow is stronger anyway. > > Maybe sprinkle some sparkling wine and say a few words > "f*cking A, lets see if floats and stays upright". > Or is Single malt more in order? Probably wouldn't hurt. -- John Fereira jaf30_at_cornell.edu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
And John Fereira, as far as launching ceremonies are concerned, I have also read that the breaking of a bottle of champagne over the bow of a launching ship is but a corruption of a Northern tradition of having your brother-in-law take a whiz on the back deck of your baidarka. It may have originally been the fore deck, but head winds made this unpalatable on a maiden cruise. And distracting. Anyway if your brother in law is anything like my brother in law, who is anything like Nanook's brother in law, this is probably the only part of the ceremony that such an individual could be trusted not to screw up. But now, come to think of it, considering the climate in question here, I think it chancy, or even downright foolhardy to 'withdrawal one's member' (victorian language utilized here in deference to any ladies present on list), in so inhospitable a climate........one certainly can remember the stories passed about in hushed tones about the hapless chap who licked the flagpole in Minnesota in February on a recess dare.....which to my mind, lends credence to the original story considering the esteem with which I hold my brother in law. Chris (making this stuff up as I go along) John Fereira wrote: > > > > Hmm, the roto molded double is affectionately called the HMS rubbermaid. > > > My friend has a fleet of rental boats. The only one that has a name > is the Necky Amaruk double. He calls it the Mother Ship. > > > On a related thread, for a new boat, is there any special ceremony > > for first launch? > > I'm just finishing up a pygmy stitch and glue kayak, and hoping to > > finish outfitting and do a test launch this weekend. > > > > For larger boats, I understand smashing a bottle of Dom Perigon > > on the bow is in order, but due to back orders for y2k parties, > > I don't see any in the store, and not sure I'd want to see > > if the bottle or the bow is stronger anyway. > > > > Maybe sprinkle some sparkling wine and say a few words > > "f*cking A, lets see if floats and stays upright". > > Or is Single malt more in order? > > Probably wouldn't hurt. > > -- > John Fereira > jaf30_at_cornell.edu > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
For the same rationale that farm animals are seldom named (excepting of course, black humor in naming a pig 'pok chop', or a pair of rabbits 'hoss' & 'pheffier'), I do not name my boats (I have on occasion, depending on the conditions in which I find myself, or have placed myself, speaking VOLUMES to the inanimate, much of which is unprintable on a 'family orientated list'). Build 'em and use 'em up, says I. I have read that the Aleuts had a rich tradition of not only speaking to their biadarkas, but the baidarkas had a penchant for answering back again. I don't know if they named them. Notably, one Aleut legend about a hunter who transgressed baidarka protocol by neglecting to rub down the gunwales of his boat after having relations with his wife, to transfer some of her warmth to his baidarka (undoubtedly heat is a major perk in northern climes), and the sneaky little critter waits for his owner to be separated from the hunting pack and in pea soup fog, and *then* speaks up with his complaint of the transgression. Yeah, you heard me right........the baidarka pipes up and says something to the effect of, "because you did not impart to me some of the warmth of your wife last time, I shall not carry you to safely to shore." Damnit, I HATE it when my kayak gives me lip.......don't you? However, you can bet that after a hot date with Miss Ellie, you can find me out in the garage in my bathrobe and bunny slippers.........just a-rubbin' down those gunwales.......like a man possessed. Chris John Fereira wrote: > > > > Hmm, the roto molded double is affectionately called the HMS rubbermaid. > > > My friend has a fleet of rental boats. The only one that has a name > is the Necky Amaruk double. He calls it the Mother Ship. > > > On a related thread, for a new boat, is there any special ceremony > > for first launch? > > I'm just finishing up a pygmy stitch and glue kayak, and hoping to > > finish outfitting and do a test launch this weekend. > > > > For larger boats, I understand smashing a bottle of Dom Perigon > > on the bow is in order, but due to back orders for y2k parties, > > I don't see any in the store, and not sure I'd want to see > > if the bottle or the bow is stronger anyway. > > > > Maybe sprinkle some sparkling wine and say a few words > > "f*cking A, lets see if floats and stays upright". > > Or is Single malt more in order? > > Probably wouldn't hurt. > > -- > John Fereira > jaf30_at_cornell.edu > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I hope my Prism SOT isn't part of me, I weigh too much as it is. Her name is Mo Chridhe (my dear). e Elaine Harmon - eilidh_at_dc.seflin.org - eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Peter Osman wrote: > > How many kayaks are named? I refer to my 17-foot humongous Eddyline Wind Dancer as The Cargo Barge because that's what it is. My SO insists the 18-foot (but slimmer) yellow over white Sea Star should be "Sunny-side Up." I don't know about that last one. No name for the 15-1/2-foot stitch and glue boat. On the radio I am "Bufflehead," which the license says is the name of my craft, so maybe the cargo barge is really a duck! -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I can't keep myself from naming my boats. Once, my fleet was large enough to require each to have a name to specify which was which. My friends even knew their names. Now my fleet isn't so large, but chritening each boat with a name is in keeping with the maritime traditions. My tandem sea kayak is named Marge. We affectionately refer to her as large Marge the barge. I have an older solo flatwater canoe whose shiney gray gelcoat has long since faded. I called her Grace, but my wife always says she is the color of Al Bundy's t-shirts so the boat sometimes is referred to as Al. The newest boat in my fleet is a fast flatwater canoe which I have christened Addie. I have also named all my children and vehicles. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
For the same rationale that farm animals are seldom named (I imagine it's a bit harder with the knife when you've been on a first name basis for years), I do not name my kayaks. Consume them, use them up, patch them up, build another. I have on occasion talked to my boat in language that would be unprintable in a family orientated list. . The Aleuts, I understand had a rich tradition of not only speaking to their kayaks, but their biadarkas would occasionally answer back, as in the tribal legend that moralized the importance of 'keeping in touch' with your baidarka, and including it in the most intimate details of your life, such as remembering to transfer some of the warmth of your wife to the baidarka after conjugual relations by rubbing the old girl's gunwales down (the baidarka's ---not the old girl.). The sneaky ol' boat in the legend waited for an opportune moment to exact vengence on this breach of protocol , when the hunter was separated from the pack in pea soup fog, * then * the boat speaks up and informs the hunter words to the effect, " because you did not share with me the warmth of your wife last time, I shall not carry you safely to shore." This of course is all nonsence.........but still the one down in the garage after a hot date with Miss Ellie in my bathrobe and bunny slippers just a rubbin' those gunwales, just to be sure. Dave Kruger wrote: > Peter Osman wrote: > > > > How many kayaks are named? > > I refer to my 17-foot humongous Eddyline Wind Dancer as The Cargo Barge > because that's what it is. My SO insists the 18-foot (but slimmer) yellow > over white Sea Star should be "Sunny-side Up." I don't know about that last > one. No name for the 15-1/2-foot stitch and glue boat. > > On the radio I am "Bufflehead," which the license says is the name of my > craft, so maybe the cargo barge is really a duck! > > -- > Dave Kruger > Astoria, OR > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I'd always heard that it was bad luck to not name a boat. I named my boat before I learned that since a kayak is an extension and not so much a boat per se. I named it "Taanisartuq" which is an Inuit phrase meaning "he is dancing" which I thought was appropriate for a boat that would be paddled on big waves. Anyhow, is it worse to have a named kayak or to "unname" the boat? My brother called his wooden kayak "Krummholtz" after the stunted sub-alpine fir trees found in alpine regions. He found out how appropriate the name was when a German guy came up to him and was admiring his boat and said, "Hmm..Krummholtz---'bent wood' ". My paddling buddy's yellow Aquaterra Chinook NW is the "Banana Boat". Shawn *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Shawn Baker wrote: > I'd always heard that it was bad luck to not name a boat. I named my > boat before I learned that since a kayak is an extension and not so much > a boat per se. > > Anyhow, is it worse to have a named kayak or to "unname" the boat? > I believe it is considered bad luck to change the name of a boat, so unnaming it is probably similarly chancy. Like others, I sometimes talk to my boat, sometimes using language that would make a sailor blush. Of course, I'm a paddle, not a sailor, so it doesn't bother me. But I've never named a boat. Just couldn't think of anything creative enough. Like the woman who called her canoe "Flipper". So she had to call her husband's boat "Flippim", didn't she? Steve Cramer Test Scoring & Reporting Services Sometimes you never can University of Georgia always tell what you Athens, GA 30602-5593 least expect the most. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
..........um, sorry for the duplicate on that first post. I thought my server was screwing up. Chris & Ellen Kohut wrote: > For the same rationale that farm animals are seldom named (excepting of > course, black humor in naming a pig 'pok chop', or a pair of rabbits 'hoss' & > 'pheffier'), I do not name my boats (I have on occasion, depending on the > conditions in which I find myself, or have placed myself, speaking VOLUMES to > the inanimate, much of which is unprintable on a 'family orientated list'). > Build 'em and use 'em up, says I. > I have read that the Aleuts had a rich tradition of not only speaking to > their biadarkas, but the baidarkas had a penchant for answering back again. I > don't know if they named them. > Notably, one Aleut legend about a hunter who transgressed baidarka protocol > by neglecting to rub down the gunwales of his boat after having relations with > his wife, to transfer some of her warmth to his baidarka (undoubtedly heat is a > major perk in northern climes), and the sneaky little critter waits for his > owner to be separated from the hunting pack and in pea soup fog, and *then* > speaks up with his complaint of the transgression. Yeah, you heard me > right........the baidarka pipes up and says something to the effect of, > "because you did not impart to me some of the warmth of your wife last time, I > shall not carry you to safely to shore." > Damnit, I HATE it when my kayak gives me lip.......don't you? > > However, you can bet that after a hot date with Miss Ellie, you can find > me out in the garage in my bathrobe and bunny slippers.........just a-rubbin' > down those gunwales.......like a man possessed. > Chris > > John Fereira wrote: > > > > > > > Hmm, the roto molded double is affectionately called the HMS rubbermaid. > > > > > My friend has a fleet of rental boats. The only one that has a name > > is the Necky Amaruk double. He calls it the Mother Ship. > > > > > On a related thread, for a new boat, is there any special ceremony > > > for first launch? > > > I'm just finishing up a pygmy stitch and glue kayak, and hoping to > > > finish outfitting and do a test launch this weekend. > > > > > > For larger boats, I understand smashing a bottle of Dom Perigon > > > on the bow is in order, but due to back orders for y2k parties, > > > I don't see any in the store, and not sure I'd want to see > > > if the bottle or the bow is stronger anyway. > > > > > > Maybe sprinkle some sparkling wine and say a few words > > > "f*cking A, lets see if floats and stays upright". > > > Or is Single malt more in order? > > > > Probably wouldn't hurt. > > > > -- > > John Fereira > > jaf30_at_cornell.edu > > *************************************************************************** > > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > > *************************************************************************** > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Sandy in answer to your query of ......'' Are you a writer"? I try very hard, but in the place in which I find myself they will only let me have a a blunt crayon........no sharp objects. And Seakayaker will accept no submissions done in the medium of crayola. I checked. Chris Sandykayak_at_aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/3/99 10:13:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > chriskayak_at_earthlink.net writes: > > << Damnit, I HATE it when my kayak gives me lip.......don't you? > >> > OK, Chris, three good ones. Are you a writer? If you haven't done so > already, you might want to put these threads in an article and submit to a > paddle-related magazine. Ask Sea Kayaker for their "writer's guidelines," > I'd love to read an article on this topic. The ability to write humorously > brings joy to others. > > Sandy Kramer > Miami, Fl *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In the Atlantic Sea Kayakers, a group of about 150 paddlers, I only know of 2 people that named their boats. Unless there's a bunch out there that won't confess it. Debbie Reeves Sandy Hook, NJ > ---------- > From: Peter Osman[SMTP:PeterO_at_ambri.com.au] > > How many kayaks are named? I read recently that it was considered > inappropriate to give a kayak a name. The argument went along the lines > that > a kayak should be used as an extension of the body, not something separate > providing a safe haven after the manner of a larger boat. Now I can think > of > half a dozen good reasons to name a kayak and wondered what proportion of > kayakers did? So if anyone is interested and would like to reply direct or > on Paddlewise I'll give the results of a 'straw poll' next week! > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> In the Atlantic Sea Kayakers, a group of about 150 paddlers, I only know of > 2 people that named their boats. Unless there's a bunch out there that > won't confess it. > > Debbie Reeves > Sandy Hook, NJ > who are the Atlantic Sea Kayakers? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
When I finished my CLC Mill Creek double a few years ago, it seemed natural to name it. Thinking it was very pretty and unique, I considered naming it after my wife, "Miss Lin." When I mentioned this in passing over a few beers at the local VFW, a friend/trouble-maker said.. "Oh yeah, I can hear it now...'David has to go home to paddle Miss Lin'" The boat was never actually named, though I've been tortured with the faux pas many times. Be careful with boat names... David *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
<< who are the Atlantic Sea Kayakers? >> I don't really know for sure. But I'm willing to go way out on a limb here and guess that they are a club on the east coast :-) Scott So.Cal. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Damn you West Coast folks are a sharp lot! BTW, I believe the other fellow was referring to the Atlantic Coastal Kayaker - which I believe is a kayak magazine, but I might be wrong here. - Scott group (of which I'm not a member Scott on the East Coast. KiAyker_at_aol.com wrote: > > << who are the Atlantic Sea Kayakers? >> > > I don't really know for sure. But I'm willing to go way out on a limb here > and guess that they are a club on the east coast :-) > > Scott > So.Cal. > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** -- Scott Ives ssives_at_erols.com - avid father, husband, photographer, kayaker, jet skier and Mustang Cobra convertible owner *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
.........H.M.S. RUBBERMAID is good. Mr./Mrs. Tupper? (self same stuff), is also a possibility. Dannon? These are all good, but admittedly none so good as H.M.S. Rubbermaid. Sandykayak_at_aol.com wrote: > Chris, possible title for your article: > > TO NAME OR NOT TO NAME? THAT IS THE QUESTION. > > By Chris Kohut > (with input from Peter Osman, Australia) > > What started as a simple question on the paddlewise list, has developed into > a flurry of opinions and assertions. The original question was: [insert > Peter O's question and the whole bit about the extension of one's self that > you already alluded to] > > OK, Chris, this should get you started - just make sure you put HMS > Rubbermaid, it's sooo funny. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Pretty funny story David! Hope your wife saw the humor in it! - Scott davidgulick wrote: > > When I finished my CLC Mill Creek double a few years ago, it seemed > natural to name it. Thinking it was very pretty and unique, I considered naming it after my wife, "Miss Lin." ... *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
My opinion: It's a crock! I don't name my bicycles,cars or guns either! cya *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
One of my basic credos: "Don't name your food"! *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I've never named any of my kayaks or canoes, not because I feel it is inappropriate, but only because I have never felt an inclination to do so. Maybe it's a carryover from canoeing, since "Canadian" canoes traditionally are not named. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>I've never named any of my kayaks or canoes, not because I feel it is >inappropriate, but only because I have never felt an inclination to do >so. Maybe it's a carryover from canoeing, since "Canadian" canoes >traditionally are not named. > Are you sure about that? I took a quick look at a 1905 ACA Yearbook, which lists all the members (957 back then). I would estimate that at least 80 percent of them had also listed their boats' names. This also includes the Northern Division, which was all of Canada. Kayaks as we know them were nonexistent at this time, though using a double blade in a canoe (or a sail) was commonplace. I see a lot of Native American names, not a few woman's names, and a few ship names such as Half-Moon or Mayflower. Some are named after rivers, and some are names sulch as Eonac, Wanderer, Foggy Dew, Red Devil, Foam, Fourexes, ...... *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Chuck Holst wrote: > Though it seems now that many people have named their canoes, I > personally know very few who have. It's so traditional to name > ships, powerboats, and sailboats, that the marine radio license > asks for the name of your watercraft, but the same is not true > of canoes and kayaks, and I'll bet that very few who have named > their canoes and kayaks have gone so far as to actually paint the > names on their watercraft. I have friends who are members of the Welos canoe club, the club does a lot of the work for the Maine Canoe Symposium. One family has not only named their 11 canoes but has painted the names on all of them. "Bear" the 20' old town tripper being the only named boat that comes to mind. kirk *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>> >I've never named any of my kayaks or canoes, not because I feel it is >inappropriate, but only because I have never felt an inclination to do >so. Maybe it's a carryover from canoeing, since "Canadian" canoes >traditionally are not named. > Are you sure about that? I took a quick look at a 1905 ACA Yearbook, which lists all the members (957 back then). I would estimate that at least 80 percent of them had also listed their boats' names. This also includes the Northern Division, which was all of Canada. Kayaks as we know them were nonexistent at this time, though using a double blade in a canoe (or a sail) was commonplace. I see a lot of Native American names, not a few woman's names, and a few ship names such as Half-Moon or Mayflower. Some are named after rivers, and some are names sulch as Eonac, Wanderer, Foggy Dew, Red Devil, Foam, Fourexes, ...... >> I used "Canadian" in the British sense, meaning an open canoe. Maybe it is a tradition that has died, or maybe it is a Canadian tradition; in Minnesota it seems every other person has a canoe, yet I almost never hear anyone refer to theirs by name, and I hardly ever see one with a name on it, unlike power cruisers and sailboats. I don't name my skis, snowshoes, cars, or computers, either. I do name my cats. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
---------- > From: Joe Pylka <pylka_at_castle.net> --snip-- > Are you sure about that? I took a quick look at a 1905 ACA Yearbook, > which lists all the members (957 back then). I would estimate that at > least 80 percent of them had also listed their boats' names. This also > includes the Northern Division, which was all of Canada. --snip-- I concur with Joe, for when I had access to Canadian Canoe Association and Sudbury Canoe Club records from the turn of the century, I came across frequent references to named canoes. Cheers, Richard Culpeper *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
-----Original Message----- From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com> >One of my basic credos: "Don't name your food"! Bob, try: "Don't eat your boat!" Bob Volin bobvolin_at_bestweb.net ;-> There cannot be a crisis this week; my schedule is already full. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Is an un-named boat really a boat, or just random flotsam? ;-) My first car was a beat up old wreck with true personaliy, so it got a name. Since then, no car has had enough personality to warrant a name. But a boat is different. I think each boat's interaction with the sea and with its owner is unique, and certainly makes each boat worthy of a name, no matter its size. But that's a marine tradition, which landubbers might not understand. ;-b That said, I still have to name my new kayak...hmmmm....what paint goes well with hypalon... Regards, Leander leander_at_worldnet.att.net *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
My canoe, 2 ww kayaks, and tour kayak have not been named. Well, THE SEA LION came with a name that seemed okay. The only boat I have named is a heavy 13' fibreglas, dark-green colored pirogue that I have had forever. Thanks to a friend's artwork it has a nice picture of a pea pod boat with a paddler who is strokin' mixed in with some ornate lettering of its name ...The Pea-Row ! I do personalize my boats with my palm-print in several spots. Dip your flat palm in some paint and press against the hull somewhere ....on top to help stabilize the ww boats ....aside the bow to guide the canoe ....a helpful push from astern to assist the tour yak. Try it, it seems to work for me. .....adieu ........Peyton (Louisiana) ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I've only named one of my four kayaks. My first. I took up kayaking while in San Francisco and bought a used Seda Double (Tango) after only a handful of outings. At almost 22 feet, I thought she deserved a name. After all she was longer than most power and sail boats. "S.F. Minnow"... is her name and she wears it proudly on her bow. She has not failed me even in ~4-5knot ebb under the Golden Gate with 20 knot winds coming in and 15-20ft swells. My non-paddling friends give me a strange look when I ask if they want to go on a "three hour tour in the S.F. Minnow"... Live long and paddle, Albert -----Original Message----- From: Peter Osman <PeterO_at_ambri.com.au> To: 'paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net' <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net> Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 4:59 PM Subject: [Paddlewise] The naming of boats > How many kayaks are named? I read recently that it was considered >inappropriate to give a kayak a name. The argument went along the lines that >a kayak should be used as an extension of the body, not something separate >providing a safe haven after the manner of a larger boat. Now I can think of >half a dozen good reasons to name a kayak and wondered what proportion of >kayakers did? So if anyone is interested and would like to reply direct or >on Paddlewise I'll give the results of a 'straw poll' next week! > >PeterO >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ >*************************************************************************** > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I haven't taken to naming inanimate objects but I had a friend who had the name Turtle painted upside-down on the stern of his E-class scow since that was the way the boat was most of the time and it made reading the name easier. Larry Mills Purchase, NY *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> How many kayaks are named? My kayak is named the Henry David, after Henry David Thoreau, because the day I first paddled in it I was supposed to be at home finishing a major term paper on Walden. And because it's a Loon, and the bird figures prominently in Walden. And because HDT loved to paddle a canoe. However, we mostly call it the Loon, except that my friends mostly call it the Banana Boat because it's bright yellow, and because they think it's fun to be disrespectful. Su Penn *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 22:22 7/2/99 -0700, "Albert Wang" <awang2_at_san.rr.com> wrote: > >I've only named one of my four kayaks. My first. I took up kayaking while in >San Francisco and bought a used Seda Double (Tango) after only a handful of >outings. At almost 22 feet, I thought she deserved a name. After all she was >longer than most power and sail boats. > >"S.F. Minnow"... >is her name and she wears it proudly on her bow. She has not failed me even >in ~4-5knot ebb under the Golden Gate with 20 knot winds coming in and >15-20ft swells. [snip] my sister & her husband bought an 18' gruman canoe [aluminum tank] we nicknamed the battleship davis. the 17' aluminum boat we have has always been called "the garbage skow" as we borrowed it from its previous owners each of the last 5 years for the annual "river clean up" through denver!! mark #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com-------------------------------------- mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.diac.com/~zen/paddler [index of Paddling websites I manage] Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. --Pablo Picasso *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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