>> What about mounting the compass under the brim of your hat? >> If I mounted a compass under the brim of my hat, I couldn't focus on it. One reason so many compasses are mounted well forward is that many sea kayakers are over 50! Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Holst <CHUCK_at_multitech.com> To: 'Paddlewise' <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 11:46 AM Subject: [Paddlewise] FW: Mounting a compass One reason so many compasses are mounted well forward is > that many sea kayakers are over 50! > > Chuck Holst > > How many? 52 next month here. How long can one continue to kayak? I think sea-kayaking, given otherwise decent health, is an activity one can continue to enjoy well into "old age". Not talking about battling storms and 20 hour crossings here. Just low-impact, refreshing exercise. How old are some of you folks? The most physically difficult part, for me, is lifting the boat onto the rack after returning so I lean toward kevlar and gave away the plastic boat. Is this the recommended outdoor activity for baby boomers ? My wife volunteered me to provide my super-low-pressure-very-simple-introductory paddles to her 50 something female never-done-anything-adventurous-but-likes-the-water friend tomorrow. Can I tell her, "You can enjoy this at least until your ???? old." Bob *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
well i'm thirty but one of my friends is only a few years off seventy. Took up kayaking around 62, builds, designs, paddles and surfs kayaks, is an instructor and pres of the NSW sea kayak club nick *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, BaysideBob wrote: > How many? 52 next month here. I'm 60 and haven't been doing it very long. The most physically difficult part, for me, is lifting the boat > onto the rack after returning so I lean toward kevlar and gave away the > plastic boat. I've been pretending I switched to K-Lights because of travel, but actually I was scratching up the car loading the (plastic) Prism on it... Is this the recommended outdoor activity for baby boomers ? No! They're too young. They should be doing whitewater at this point in their lives, and wild monkey sex. e Elaine Harmon - eilidh_at_dc.seflin.org - eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I'm 59, been kayaking over two years, and just keep getting better! (stronger) I load a Dagger Magellan or a sit-on-top on top of a SUV with a minimum of trouble, but it takes some thought and maneuvering to do it. I always lay a towel or some protection on the back of the car, walk the bow of the kayak up and lay it on the towel, and then from the stern, lift and load. Have only dropped the Magellan off the top of the car once <g>. It bounced nicely - that's one good thing about a plastic boat (besides not worrying about the oyster beds. Susan (sitting here in hurricane alley!) -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of Elaine Harmon Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 2:07 AM To: BaysideBob Cc: Chuck Holst; 'Paddlewise' Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Not young, never will be On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, BaysideBob wrote: > How many? 52 next month here. I'm 60 and haven't been doing it very long. The most physically difficult part, for me, is lifting the boat > onto the rack after returning so I lean toward kevlar and gave away the > plastic boat. I've been pretending I switched to K-Lights because of travel, but actually I was scratching up the car loading the (plastic) Prism on it... Is this the recommended outdoor activity for baby boomers ? No! They're too young. They should be doing whitewater at this point in their lives, and wild monkey sex. e Elaine Harmon - eilidh_at_dc.seflin.org - eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> How many? 52 next month here. How long can one continue to kayak? I think > sea-kayaking, given otherwise decent health, is an activity one can continue > to enjoy well into "old age". Not talking about battling storms and 20 hour > crossings here. Just low-impact, refreshing exercise. How old are some of > you folks? The most physically difficult part, for me, is lifting the boat > onto the rack after returning so I lean toward kevlar and gave away the > plastic boat. Is this the recommended outdoor activity for baby boomers ? > My wife volunteered me to provide my > super-low-pressure-very-simple-introductory paddles to her 50 something > female never-done-anything-adventurous-but-likes-the-water friend tomorrow. > Can I tell her, "You can enjoy this at least until your ???? old." > > Bob One of the men I paddle with, who paddles once a week, just about every week, is 70. We do 12 to 17 miles per trip. They aren't fast but they aren't slow, either. I'm not sure if he does winter paddles every week. He loves to surf his boat. He certainly inspires all of us who paddle with him for both his paddling skills and his graciousness to those of us with lesser experience and skills. As a baby boomer I see a long paddling future for myself and my friends. Joan *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In one of my all women clinics one of the topics brainstormed and followed up on was "aging and kayaking". In their group they decided it was important to take a "joint break!" I thought that was pretty cute, but I find that I stiffen up when I get out so I'd rather stay in and snack, etc. You can see the other topics (all women's) by following the link from On Water Sports... Andree Hurley Hurley Design Communications - ICQ# 27469637 On-line Editor - http://www.canoekayak.com Other Kayaking - http://www.onwatersports.com Web Sites for Specialty Businesses - http://www.viewit.com/HDC/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Sat, 16 Oct 1999, Andree Hurley wrote: > In one of my all women clinics one of the topics brainstormed and followed > up on was "aging and kayaking". In their group they decided it was > important to take a "joint break!" Mmmm. I thought that was pretty cute, but I > find that I stiffen up when I get out so I'd rather stay in and snack, > etc. Yeah, those munchies.....and you get thirsty too, as I recall. Elaine Harmon - eilidh_at_dc.seflin.org - eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Age is not all that relevant to kayaking ability. With proper technique, appropriate trips and reasonable health and conditioning; an individual should be able to kayak indefinitely. Our paddling group consists of four paddlers. Ages are 67, 65, 64 and me at 42. These gentleman paddle twice weekly and average 15 to 20 miles per trip. For all you flamers, I understand that these trips are not on the open seas or involve high winds and strong currents. I am very proud of my paddlin' buddies and consider them to be among my truest friends. Thanx, Bruce WEO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 08:02 AM 10/15/99 -0400, Outfit3029_at_aol.com wrote: >Age is not all that relevant to kayaking ability. With proper technique, >appropriate trips and reasonable health and conditioning; an individual >should be able to kayak indefinitely. Our paddling group consists of four >paddlers. Ages are 67, 65, 64 and me at 42. These gentleman paddle twice >weekly and average 15 to 20 miles per trip. Does anyone know how old Derek Hutchinson and Audrey Sutherland are? If I recall correctly I think Audrey said that she didn't start paddling until she was in her 40's and she's done at least a couple of 650 mile long solo trips. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
John Fereira wrote: > Does anyone know how old Derek Hutchinson and Audrey Sutherland are? > If I recall correctly I think Audrey said that she didn't start paddling > until she > was in her 40's and she's done at least a couple of 650 mile long solo trips. Ken Fink was telling Audrey stories at the Lanier Symposium a few weeks ago. He said she has bars mounted above all the doors in her house, and has finally -- at 80 -- stopped doing a couple of pull-ups each time she goes from room to room. Me, I started WW boating at 40, SKing at 45. I'm now 50 and starting to get good at it. Ask me again in about 25 years. Steve *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Used to paddle with a cantankerous old curmudgeon who told WWII stories while paddling to the ARPA-qualified rookies with whom he paddled. I'm 56 in a couple of weeks, and I plan to paddle forever! Jack *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 02:07 AM 10/15/99 -0400, Elaine Harmon wrote: >On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, BaysideBob wrote: > >> How many? 52 next month here. > >I'm 60 and haven't been doing it very long. > >The most physically difficult part, for me, is lifting the boat >> onto the rack after returning so I lean toward kevlar and gave away the >> plastic boat. > >I've been pretending I switched to K-Lights because of travel, but >actually I was scratching up the car loading the (plastic) Prism on it... > >Is this the recommended outdoor activity for baby boomers ? > >No! They're too young. They should be doing whitewater at this point in >their lives, and wild monkey sex. e I plan on doing exactly that this weekend. I'm going up to the MooseFest and paddling the middle section (class II-III). I bought a whitewater boat last winter and due to the lack of rain haven't had the chance to paddle it on a river yet. I have spent a bit of time in it in the pool, inlet and on the lake and have rolled it dozens of times. Mostly, I'm going because it sounds like it's going to be a lot of fun. Oh, the wild monkey sex thing? We'll, I *am* a newlywed. I'm 45. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> > One reason so many compasses are mounted well forward is > > that many sea kayakers are over 50! > > > > Chuck Holst A friend of mine in Maine(also named Chuck)is an inspiration. He's 71 and paddles a lot. He paddles out to Matinicus(~22 miles of open ocean)each summer as well as several other substantial trips. On July 4th he came in third in a local around an island race of about five miles. I'm convinced that had the race been two laps he would have smoked the local testosterone-poisened youth. I used to think that I'd be lucky to be able to sit up and take solid food as I got older but I'm changing my future expectations. Dennis *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 08:02 AM 10/15/99 EDT, Outfit3029_at_aol.com wrote: >Age is not all that relevant to kayaking ability. With proper technique, >appropriate trips and reasonable health and conditioning; an individual >should be able to kayak indefinitely. Our paddling group consists of four >paddlers. Ages are 67, 65, 64 and me at 42. <snip> Something I've observed about aging: active people tend to stay healthy to a much older age than folks that have a sedentary life style. This was really drawn to my attention several years ago when I was taking photography classes at a local college. There were a number of retired folks in the class who were in there 70s. These guys were routinely going and hiking Utah and Arizona and bringing back beautiful pictures. More anecdotal evidence: A friend of mine's father still dives and he's in his mid 80's. My own grandfather spent all his life working on his farm lived to be in his mid 90s and was active up until the last couple of years of his life. Ditto for my grandmother. My thesis based on this anecdotal evidence is: not only can you keep kayaking (or any other active sport for that matter) as you get into to your 60s and beyond, kayaking will improve the quality of life in those years. Luke (who's 42 and testing his thesis on himself) -------------------------------------------------------- Luke Hoffman lhoffman_at_colsa.com COLSA Corporation In the great human comedy, one day we're spectators, the next day we're performers. Garrison Keillor *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Regarding Baby Boomers, Elaine Harmon wrote: >No! They're too young. They should be doing whitewater at this point >in their lives, and wild monkey sex. e So what's that leave their kids to do (like me?) I'm 24. And does that mean I get to look forward to the wild monkey sex? I'll tell my wife we're too young, but I'll wait for it! Shawn -- 0 © 1999 ____©/______ ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^\ ,/ /~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ Shawn W. Baker 0 http://www.missoulaconcrete/shawn/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>From: Elaine Harmon <eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu> >On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, BaysideBob wrote: > > > How many? 52 next month here. > >I'm 60 and haven't been doing it very long. >Is this the recommended outdoor activity for baby boomers ? > >No! They're too young. I'm just a young pup at age 40. Others have commented on how they've noticed that people who continue to be active as they age live longer and have a greater quality of life. On the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's "The Nature of Things" earlier this week they had a program on aging. One of the most heartening things they showed was a Scandinavian experiment in which folks in their eighties, who had not been particularly active before, started doing a moderately vigourous routine of stretches and workout. There appeared to be a measureable increase in their mobility, a reduction in their chances of injury in everyday life, and an increase in their perceived quality of life. It's never too late to start! >They should be doing whitewater at this point in >their lives, and wild monkey sex. e Uh, I do sea-kayaking, moderate (class II) whitewater, and that other thing. I hadn't realised we were supposed to choose... Philip Torrens N49°16' W123°06' *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Wes Boyd wrote: In general, the people that stayed > mentally and physically active managed to stay in good health. Those that just > veged out in front of the TV were almost always in poor health and didn't last > long. Of course, it's always hard to tease out cause from effect. But I also think that it is not just exercise which is contributing to good health, but even more, the attitude about life that led to the exercise in the first place. Slainte (health)! e Elaine Harmon - eilidh_at_dc.seflin.org - eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 10/15/1999 3:12:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, swatters_at_efun.net writes: << I load a Dagger Magellan or a sit-on-top on top of a SUV with a minimum of trouble, ....." Yo, Sue! You give your age but not your height! <<Susan (sitting here in hurricane alley!) >> Miami's Sandy Kramer watching, in horror, as the lake has overflowed at the west end and has reached the bike path. The ducks don't have to go down the slope to swim anymore. I used my bilge bump to empty about 10 lr 12 buckets of water that had collected in the Atrium. I think I need to check about gutters. The house is 10 years old and neither of the previous owners did a whole heck of anything as far as improvements. I'm having to spend the big bucks on painting and now hurricane shutters! Grrrrr *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 10/15/1999 8:11:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JSpinner_at_agu.org writes: << As a baby boomer I see a long paddling future for myself and my friends. >> OK, since this is obviously a plot for everybody to divulge their ages, I'll bite: I'm 53, look about mid-40s, and act about, oh well, let's say,...now let me think: I have matured a wee bit, so I probably act about 30! I think that there is no top age limit to the sort of warm water paddling that we Floridians can enjoy. As long as the bod can move the paddle....just think of all the disabled people who paddle. As long as you have a Sherpa to schlepp the boat and stuff!!! (am just finishing Into Thin Air - the story of the 1996 Everest calamity - incredible!) Sandy Kramer *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>I'm just a young pup at age 40. ...I have a friend who used to tell his (small) kids that even though they were getting older every year, *he* was getting younger. They believed him for a time. ....I'll be 58 in early 2000, and since I've been paddling these past 4 or so years, I *have* been getting younger. Just ask my (grown) kids, or my co-workers. This is something the psychologists should be told: One's inner child can be found in his/her cockpit! Nya nya... Bobby Others have commented on how they've noticed >that people who continue to be active as they age live longer and have a >greater quality of life. On the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's "The >Nature of Things" earlier this week they had a program on aging. One of the >most heartening things they showed was a Scandinavian experiment in which >folks in their eighties, who had not been particularly active before, >started doing a moderately vigourous routine of stretches and workout. There >appeared to be a measureable increase in their mobility, a reduction in >their chances of injury in everyday life, and an increase in their perceived >quality of life. It's never too late to start! > > >>They should be doing whitewater at this point in >>their lives, and wild monkey sex. e > >Uh, I do sea-kayaking, moderate (class II) whitewater, and that other thing. >I hadn't realised we were supposed to choose... > >Philip Torrens >N49°16' W123°06' > >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not >to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ >*************************************************************************** > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
menzo (now 80) met his wife (barbara) a few years ago when they were out paddling kayaks. since then they have done a couple fo 300+ miles kayak trips, been to italy paddling, and just now are leaving for 3 months in mexico paddling. they paddled tandem canoes with younger brother dick (69) and joanne this past weekend. besides paddling in about 7 kayak races, dick did the cross PA bike tour this past summer. at home, menzo and barbara do indoor archery down the main corridor of their home. menzo's quiet with an easy smile. menzo and barbara live in florida. they usually visit the Eastern Shore of Maryland in the spring, usually about the time of some of the local kayak races. i hope to see them again next year....however dick is always concerned about menzo trying to out pace him in a kayak race. one tandem canoe team is the Thorton brothers, Charlie and Gill. i think they are 75 & 76 now. they train all year round. nice fellows, who want to win. i'm too young to relate to these guys. their latest influence inspired me to complete a century bike ride last weekend. a few years ago, i heard one fellow at 78 muse that canoe racing wasn't so interesting because most of the competition had dropped out... so he as getting more active in bike races.... he had done the Clinton 70 mile race 10 times (after age 60) and had a white water national championship medal. last saw him paddling of in a 17 mile canoe race. i think his name was Dr. Aire... the boat said *Aire Craft Carrier* bye bye bliven *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Allison, I'm an inch shorter than you (and 42) and also have some height issues -- part of the reason for my only 16' boat and low roofed station wagon. Standing on things doesn't help since they have a tendency to either slide or not be in the right place to start with. Up until the new pulley system I put in last week above the car, here's what I would do: I'd lift the boat to my shoulder and walk it out to the car parked on the driveway. I have HulleyRollers on the front and back of the car. But still, I would lay a piece of fabric on a large spot of the driveway to cushion the stern when I needed to rest the boat, and a second piece on the edge of the car roof where the bow rested until I gathered strength and position. Then I'd angle the boat onto the rollers. (I'm convinced that at the beginning of the season, the boat is heavier than at the end of the season.) The trick on managing this has been where I stand and what grip I can get on the boat. The pulley system, though, is a great solution to hauling the boat at home, because it's eliminated most of the problem. (Oh, and I DO use an old milk crate to stand on while tying down the straps...I think I used it to hold record albums many years ago...) -Jody >I'm 5 foot 2 and find it really difficult to maneuver a large boat by >myself...any suggestions from >other short people? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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